Perfect Mode

JClay: 00:02

If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Where there are no excuses, no I'm Jay Clay, rapper, and spiritual teacher with my co host Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. Let's be real.

JClay: 00:27

So let's be perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

JClay: 01:09

Perfect.

Troy Washington: 01:12

Welcome to perfect mode. Welcome to perfect mode, and let me start by telling y'all that we love y'all. We're grateful for the opportunity to be anywhere, sharing our thoughts, hopefully, and helping you realize that you are perfect. And the reason why I can say that unapologetically is because I know that you are 1 on 1. You are numero uno.

Troy Washington: 01:29

You cannot be replicated, duplicated. And the only reason you would think that you're not perfect is if you're looking at this person on the side of you and saying, I'm not them. But guess what? You are you, and that's all you need. And, of course, it's yours truly, Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor.

Troy Washington: 01:42

And I have my boy, Jay Clay, spiritual rapper and teacher. And we got a special guest today. We got a special guest. You know, the daughter of Bob Marley, Alisa Marley.

Troy Washington: 01:52

She is

Troy Washington: 01:53

the host of something, I'm sorry. Let me get it right. A Something Paranormal podcast. And I promise you, we got to come on here and, you know, enlighten, hopefully, ourselves and help to hope hopefully enlighten you. What up, y'all?

JClay: 02:06

Yeah. What's up? What's up? Happy happy day. Happy Sunday to all my perfect people on this perfect day for the perfect time to just discuss the happiness secret and and everything.

JClay: 02:16

How how are you doing, Alyssa?

Alyssa Marley: 02:18

I'm doing great. How are you guys?

Troy Washington: 02:21

Good. Awesome. You know, we're definitely appreciative for for you to be on the show with us because, you know, you make us better. And, you know, I hope that, everybody, and I know that everybody will realize that once this is over. We definitely encourage everybody to like, share, and subscribe.

Troy Washington: 02:39

You know somebody that needs to realize that they're perfect, this is definitely the time, and we put that in your hands. Alright, Jay. Let's go ahead and get this thing started. But

JClay: 02:46

Let let let let's start off with okay. We're talking about the happiness secret. So I wanna know y'all's definition of happiness because, you know, happiness is a broad subject, and it can entail a lot of things. And I just wanna know, like, personally, what's your definitions? And we we'll start with our our special guest.

Alyssa Marley: 03:05

Oh, man. That's a tough one. Like, there could be so many ways to look at happiness, but, like, it could just be, like, that feeling of contentment. But I think there's also, like, you know, a cross between, like, being loving and and happiness because, like, if you feel joy, love, happiness, like, you just feel uplifted. And then when you share that with other people, then you also uplift them.

Alyssa Marley: 03:27

It's like a ripple effect. So I don't know. It's yeah. It's love, happiness, and just feeling really good.

Troy Washington: 03:33

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just kinda piggyback off. I think the key element in what she said for myself is the feeling part of it. And it's funny enough that at any given time, we can feel unhappy.

Troy Washington: 03:49

It's it's just, you know, just the thought about it alone, but, just you you're right. That feeling of joy and love, I guess, in in whatever you're a part of at the moment. And I Mhmm. Kinda work for for me, you know, when I can look I mean, when I feel in love with the moment is what happiness is for me.

JClay: 04:07

Yeah. And and it's an interesting concept because I'm trying to think of the times that I'm happy. Like, I I feel happy now, but I'm not even thinking about it. And so it's almost like it it's just a state of being, but but I guess in some ways you could be in a state of being where you're not happy, too. So it's just an interesting concept.

JClay: 04:25

But what I guess, too, because, you know, we're saying that the happiness secret that they didn't teach you in school, how is it different than what you're taught about? It's like like, what would you say is the proverbial this is what happiness is? This is what society thinks happiness is?

Alyssa Marley: 04:41

I mean, like, when we were in school, like, we were always taught, like, well, maybe it was just like, you know, the underlying current of events is that, like, if you have materialistic things, then you're gonna be happy. But, like, that's just, like, not the way that it is a 100%.

Troy Washington: 04:59

And and and I'll say this too, having kids and and actually, you know, I substitute in school too, so I'm around kids a lot. And the one thing that I I I do realize is that love or happiness is conditional or the way that it's taught. And so just like you said, material things are the things that tend to we we we project to say, hey, if you have these things, it'll make you happy. But it's also the aspect of if you do this for me, it'll make me happy. So there's a part of, teaching people that, receiving things from people or, or specific specifically doing things are tied to happiness.

Troy Washington: 05:41

Yeah. Mhmm.

JClay: 05:42

So so what's interesting about this is I I think about the the plight of the kid or the plight of us going into adulthood. And, you know, like, usually they say teens are rough for kids because they rebel. And in some instances, it's I wonder if if happiness plays a role in it because you're taught, like you said, a certain way to happiness. You have to do this. You have to, be this kind of person, but it's often it it's not what you wanna do.

JClay: 06:08

You know what I mean? And you're you're coming to grips with that. So it's like you almost rebel, but then you kinda settle into it when you say, okay, well, fine. Let me get this to try. And then when it doesn't work, you like, y'all lied to me.

JClay: 06:19

You know, you said this will make me happy. And. So so to that, like. Can we like how could we do it better? I don't even know what I'm asking, but, like, is that the right way to go?

JClay: 06:34

You can go

Troy Washington: 06:35

ahead, Alyssa. I know this is hard. Well,

Alyssa Marley: 06:38

you know, especially, like, in school, you're you're trying to strive to get a career, have have a family, you know, reach all these milestones, and then we kind of the thief of joy or happiness is really comparing yourself to other people, and you're just, like, constantly, like, oh my gosh. Like, I'm not engaged yet or I'm not married. I don't have kids when you see other people around you. So, you know, you just feel like I I just always feel like, you know, the thief of of joy is, like, comparison. Right?

Alyssa Marley: 07:08

So I feel like we really need to focus on ourselves and really understand that, you know, we'll be happy if we love ourselves. Like, that's, like, the very first step. You have to be happy with where you're at and content with where you're at now and just kind of be in that present moment. And then any step that you move forward, like, everything will always just, like, work out. If you understand that, then I feel like you'll you'll be happier.

Troy Washington: 07:34

Yeah, and I'll go ahead. Go ahead, Jake. No, no. Go ahead.

JClay: 07:36

Well, I was going to ask a question to you specifically. At least, do you have kids, too?

Alyssa Marley: 07:41

I don't.

Troy Washington: 07:41

You don't.

JClay: 07:42

Okay. Because I want to ask Troy because I know sometimes, like, it's easy to accept it for yourself, but you also want your kids to have something else. And I just wanted to ask briefly, Troy, like, how do you navigate what you want for your kids and what they want, like, as far as happiness and living up to it?

Troy Washington: 07:59

So story of my life. Again, you know, this is kinda how this is what life is every day to me. What I realize trying to help somebody else realize it too. And it's not like trying to help, you know, Alyssa or Jay Klay realize it. These are people that, like, literally lean on everything that I say, and I can say things in such a manner that would push them further away from what I'm trying to prove anyway.

Troy Washington: 08:24

But but nonetheless, bro, like, the funniest thing is I realized that they don't realize it a long time ago. Because my kids are what we would say is spoiled. They have pretty much everything. They got PlayStation 5. They got iPads.

Troy Washington: 08:36

They got phones. They got toys. Like, they don't they have all of these these things. Right? And then in any any given moment, they can say, I'm not happy or I'm not bored.

Troy Washington: 08:45

And in in your head, it's like, why why are you not happy? Why are you bored? Why do you feel this way when you have everything? And, again, when you when you when you look at that and you ask yourself the question again, something that I I was able to witness a long time ago was, dang, they're not happy with themselves. They they haven't found within themselves where they can be in love or be in joy.

Troy Washington: 09:08

And, the way that I show that more than anything that I feel like is always to and I don't I don't do this in a way that I feel like it's hurtful because I I think that they still want, but it's to shun things. And so if you were ever, you know, to call me on my birthday and say, what are you doing? I always say nothing. I'm just spending time with my kids. And so when my me on these days, they always like, well, why you don't want anything?

Troy Washington: 09:34

And I always tell them, well, I have everything. I have myself and I have y'all, and there's nothing else that I need to make me happy. And so they're always like, what? But it it's a repetitive thing. And so now at at, you know, any given moment, there's no question of why I'm happy or why I'm content or why I'm full of joy because they nothing external for me that I need in order for me to be there.

JClay: 09:58

Yeah. That's that's interesting. As you were saying that I was trying to think about times where I I was unhappy, but I knew I was unhappy. You know, like like, sometimes you're just unhappy. You're unaware.

JClay: 10:11

And when I knew that I was, I was like, I wanna I wanna get back to this happiness. And sometimes affirmations right away just didn't do the trick. And and I don't know. And I guess, like, what what do you what do you guys do when you find yourself in the non happy state and you wanna kinda get back to that because you know how much better you are in a happy state?

Alyssa Marley: 10:35

Well, we were kind of talking about this, like, the prerecording. You know, music is really healing, like, I find, like, if I'm ever feeling really down, like, listening to music always, like, pumps me up or if I'm singing, that always pumps me up, but just, like, being around, like, people that really care about you, even, like, your your family, for instance. Like, if I'm having especially if I'm crying, like, I'll call my mom and, like, she just knows, like, how to make me feel better. You just have to get back to the things that really have meaning to you and then surround yourself with that.

Troy Washington: 11:07

Yeah. And I I guess I would have to say for myself when it comes to how I feel, I would say that I'm I'm introverted. You know, I don't think I'm introverted, but I think when it comes to personally how I feel, I literally don't get other people involved. But what I do is I sit down and I will literally ask myself a question, am I really unhappy? And I I start to, I guess, poke and prod myself to figure out where I am or where where my mind is.

Troy Washington: 11:39

And a lot of times, I'm generally able to figure out, okay, well, I'm I'm worried about this or I'm I'm in doubt about this or, I feel like this obstacle is gonna be too big, or maybe I do wanna be around people, and I haven't been able to express it to myself. But, nonetheless, I kinda just and then I start to ask myself questions so I can really see what's going on.

JClay: 12:02

Yeah. What what's funny about that is I'm I'm similar in that, like, if I'm not feeling my highest, I would kinda just back away and, you know, ask myself so many questions. And usually, I can get myself back to it. But I know that when I'm around people, it is easier for me to be happy. But I don't always go and seek out family like like, Alisa said.

JClay: 12:24

And what I was thinking about, I've been reading a lot on vibrations. You know, like, you can what you have vibrational match to will appear in front of you. So if you feel like you're not happy, you can only see unhappiness. So it's almost like those happy people aren't even available for you anyway unless you're willing to give that vibration. And it's a it's a it's a it's a tough thing to do.

JClay: 12:48

But shout out real quick, shout out to Loretta. Yes. Music raises the vibration and what you listen to, too, as far as you know. So if you listen to Jay Clay, my music now. Go ahead, please.

Troy Washington: 12:58

I I I wanna say something to that about your vibration not being what you want it to be, and then you finding matching vibrations. And so and that's one of the things that I feel like I would be fearful of is that me not understanding where I am and then seeking out the happiness, but finding myself being aligned with things that I don't necessarily want or family that are doing things that are not necessarily of where I'm trying to go. And, again, I'm not saying that that happens for everybody, but I know for myself that I've ended up being in situations with people that I shouldn't have been in situations with in my time of growing up. And so I think for myself, again, trying to recognize what is really going on with you right now. Why do you feel like, again, why have you even described this as unhappy?

Troy Washington: 13:49

Like, why what what what about it is not pleasing to you? And then trying to get to the root cause of that so that way I can change my vibration. So that way when I do go around people, I go around the people that are gonna help me raise my vibration higher than where it actually is. Well, go ahead. Yes.

JClay: 14:07

And so so to that and question for you, Alisa. Some people some people, I realize that they can't get to that because they don't believe that they deserve happiness or that they could even be happy. What what would you say to them or someone that came to you like to like, how? I I got nothing to be happy about.

Alyssa Marley: 14:28

Like, I was just thinking, like, when you said, you know, it was really hard for you to, like, put yourself out there and, like, kind of ask for help or or surround yourself with people. Don't you ever find too that, like, when you're doing something that's good for you or or you wanna do something that's good for you, it doesn't always feel good. Like, you you know, if you're if you wanna work out, for instance, like, you know, you're like, I don't really wanna do this until you actually do it. And then after you do it, then you feel good. But it's all those things that are good for you that you're like you have this, like, instant resistance.

Alyssa Marley: 15:04

But I think to your second point there, like, the question, you know, starting with gratitude is also another way to to bring that happiness. Like, just start recognizing the things that you have, and then the more you are thankful for the things like, oh, I have a roof over my head. Oh, I have the money to pay for food for myself. Like, I have a family. The it'll be easier to kind of pivot towards happiness.

Alyssa Marley: 15:31

I think it stems from gratitude for sure.

JClay: 15:34

I love that. It's so true. Joy, do you wanna say something?

Troy Washington: 15:37

Yeah. And I just wanted to add as well the fact that just realizing that happiness is a domino effect, just like the opposite. Right? And funny enough, like, I have kids that I there's some kids at school that they they were in some they were in trouble. Right?

Troy Washington: 15:55

And the thing is they've been doing a lot of things to keep them in trouble to the point where they were almost expelled from school, so they were not gonna be able to come back to school. So they separated these kids, and they put them in different classrooms. Well, I just happened to be the teacher that was in those classrooms for the days that those students were in those classes. Right? And when I was talking to them now, again, this is me understanding that kids are impressionable.

Troy Washington: 16:18

Right? And then I'm an authority figure, and I can instill seeds in them that can help them understand what's going on. Right? So this is just me kinda coming into this with, with the mindset of I know how I feel like I can help them. Right?

Troy Washington: 16:32

But this was also teaching them what I feel like was happening is is that that has a domino effect. And so the kids were expressing to me, man, I just hate school, you know, you know, all of these different things that they don't like about it, unhappiness. Right? But, again, all the steps that they took along the way, the fight, the argument, not liking the teachers, not getting their classwork done, It all kind of was falling in line with each other. Right?

Troy Washington: 16:59

And so what I did for these kids on these days where I literally asked them, I said, hey. You know, what is it that y'all wanna be? It's 2 these 2 kids. I said, what do y'all wanna be when y'all grow up? And they told me, and I was like, well, you know you can do that, but you can start doing that now.

Troy Washington: 17:13

And so I kinda just made them write down their goals that, you know, broke it down to all of these different details. And I said, but it all starts here. You have to understand that you can and that you have to have the right mentality about it. Now this is where I told them just to take a chance. And so one of the students literally went to the teacher.

Troy Washington: 17:31

It was like, hey. Can I get some extra credit? I wanna get my grade up to this. So few weeks later, the kid comes back to me. Now mind you, when I was with them the the other time, they're unhappy, they're mad, they're cantankerous.

Troy Washington: 17:43

They wanna I can't wait till I get out of here. And they came to me smiling one morning and was like, hey, man. I went to my teacher. Now this is the now they're happy. You can see it.

Troy Washington: 17:52

I went to my teacher. They gave me the assignments. I got great good grades in that class now. She's gonna give me this extra project. Man, I appreciate and you can just see it was just going, and I was like, look at the domino effect.

Troy Washington: 18:04

Do you not wanna be here? No. I do wanna be here. Oh, you do wanna get your work done. But what about the person that you were fighting with?

Troy Washington: 18:09

Oh, well, we're cool now because we got the same. And and it just showed showed her or them that choosing happiness led to happiness in a a bunch of different areas. But go ahead, Jay.

JClay: 18:21

Yeah. I love that. It's like you do talk about the the ripple effect of happiness. Like, it it by by choose by being willing to choose, not even choosing, by being willing to choose happiness, it reverberates in everything that you do. And I love what what Alisa said because.

JClay: 18:36

Like, I was really thinking it's hard to be angry if you're in gratitude about things, if you're grateful for things like you, you can't be it's almost impossible. And I think that's one of the the secrets, one of the happiness secrets that they didn't teach you at school. Like, just being grateful for anything at all. Like like but not not just saying the words, but truly meaning it. Like, I am grateful.

JClay: 18:57

It's raining outside right now. And I have this roof, a brand new roof, actually, that they just installed a couple of months ago. So I know I'm good and and I'm happy about that. Like, it is it is an amazing process. So so I wanna ask, do you all have any any gratitude practices, or is it just something that you just kinda remember to do from time to time or that's a part of you?

Alyssa Marley: 19:20

I mean, for me, like, typically, like, before I go to bed, I try to say, like, a few things to myself. Like, even if it's in my head, I'll just say, like, I'm thankful for this. I'm thankful for that. I think also, like, even just meditating and being present, like, I may not specifically think of what I'm grateful for at that moment, but I think just being present in the moment and being, like, open to source and god or love, whatever you wanna call it, is also really helpful for that as well.

Troy Washington: 19:49

For myself, I I would have to say that it's 100% intentional all the time because, again, having kids, you you they take and hang on every single word that you, you know, you have. And like I said, as an example, for my birthday, I don't ask for anything, and I emphasize I don't need anything. I'm happy. But even even on a small scale, just thinking about, like, when we order DoorDash. Right?

Troy Washington: 20:12

Or we order some food, and they bring the food to the house, and my food is wrong. I don't get upset. You know? I I just be like, oh, it's all good. I it was supposed to be this way anyway.

Troy Washington: 20:20

And I'm happy because I'm gonna get food and the food is gonna be good. So I'm all the time intentionally expressing gratitude and, you know, I know I'm doing this for the purpose of showing my kids gratitude, but it also reinforces in me what I need in order for me to actually be okay. Because sometimes I'm not okay that my food is not right. But I'm okay because I've made myself be okay because of the the, you know, the practice of it.

JClay: 20:45

And I find too, like, when you when you preach happiness, almost like when you when you speak of happiness, it's almost like you can't be unhappy around other people because then they go, like, I thought you were missed to happiness. You know what I mean? So, like, being around people actually helps if you speak the words that you want to affirm, like if you affirm these things regularly. And I love that you said to how if something goes wrong, you're like, nah, I'm cool. It's going to work out for my highest good this past week, because of the freeze, you know, it's cold.

JClay: 21:15

I I know Lisa is used to it, and and she's in Canada. Yeah. We we're in Texas now.

Troy Washington: 21:20

I said to Canada.

JClay: 21:21

You know, I'm from Chicago. But, you know, it's a it's a it's a free it was a freeze going on where it went, you know, below freezing point. And we have a water softener system that's outside, so we have to bypass it and wrap up the pipes so it won't explode. So, you know, we did that. And then as soon as it got, you know, above freezing point and it was over, I'm like, yes.

JClay: 21:38

We can get our good water back because the the Houston water is not the best water. Anyway, cut it on. The bypass explodes. Water everywhere. Like, I'm sitting here.

JClay: 21:49

I'm trying to catch the water. I'm trying to do everything I can. We hit the nozzle on the house to cut off the water to the house. Did not work. So water is just going everywhere.

JClay: 21:57

The the the the side of the house is is flooding. It's outside, though. And so we had to figure out how to go to the front of the house and cut off the the whole water to the house. We did that. We got somebody out of it, repaired it.

JClay: 22:08

And, of course, you know, we can laugh at it now, But it led to us getting we're going to get a new system. We got a good deal on it. This one did last way past the shelf value. So we were grateful for that. And it's it was crazy.

JClay: 22:22

Like, it changed a lot of things. But our attitude about it made the day much better than it could have been by just always assuming the worst. Like, I'm always spending money. I'm always this. And so it's it's it's great to have that mindset, to practice that mindset so that when you really need it, it's there.

JClay: 22:40

Yeah.

Alyssa Marley: 22:41

I think it's really, like, the underlying current with with what you both said, though. It's it's a choice. Right? Like, you can choose to look at things in a positive mindset, and you can choose to look at things in a negative mindset. So, like, when you choose to be positive, like, I just feel like you, like, you just notice more positive things and then it, like, passes on.

Alyssa Marley: 23:03

Like, you know, when you're you're at work, for instance, and everybody's just, like, bashing the job and saying, like, how crappy it is, like, doesn't that really, like, get about vibrations? Like, it lowers your vibration, and sometimes I I can say, like, it actually hurts my spirit. So I just choose to kinda look at, you know, life with the glass half full.

Troy Washington: 23:21

Yo. It's the it's the simple principle of the red car. You know, everybody witnessed this. Whenever you decide you want a new car, you'd be like, I want that. I want this car, and I want it red.

Troy Washington: 23:31

The next thing you do is you see our red cars all the time. Yeah. Because your, attention is on you you're gonna bring to yourself what you your attention is on. And so if happiness just happens to be that thing and, again, on the flip side of it, I've seen people that I grew up with who, in my own eyes and, again, I don't I I guess I can't say that something is hard or not hard to someone else. But, again, these people that I grew up with who have taken the the mentality of, oh, that's bad.

Troy Washington: 24:02

That's bad. And then they always end up in situations all the time. And I'm like, why you keep ending up in this situation is because you're you're you're saying this is the way the world is. And so that's the way that it's coming to you all the time. But go ahead, Jay.

JClay: 24:16

So it's okay. So it sounds like happiness secret number 1 is gratitude. Happiness secret number 2 is intentional. It's intention. Right?

JClay: 24:23

Like, me intending to be happy, intending to see the the the happiness of it or the joy in it no matter what. Would you agree?

Alyssa Marley: 24:32

Mhmm. Yeah. 100%.

JClay: 24:36

Shout out to Betty. She she agrees as well.

Troy Washington: 24:38

Shout out.

JClay: 24:39

So, okay, now let's let's try to bridge this gap between happiness as as we believe society has taught it to us and happiness as it is now. Like, we we we said, like okay. We're we're taught that through things, through items, we should be happy. But that's not always the case. We get these items and we're still unhappy.

JClay: 25:03

But being grateful for these items, could that lead to happiness or is it just gratitude, period? You know what I'm asking?

Alyssa Marley: 25:13

I don't know. I feel tough when

JClay: 25:14

it would just say, but is it just the spirit of gratitude or is it gratitude for something like, does it have to be an object of your gratitude?

Alyssa Marley: 25:22

No. I think it would be more of the spirit. And, like, it it's just like a mindset. Like, you can chew like, you can choose to be happy or you can choose not to be. And then, like, the the more you're it's like, you know, thoughts are things.

Alyssa Marley: 25:36

Like, I truly believe that, like, with the whole law of attraction thing, which is kinda what you were saying about the red car. So I don't know. I just feel like if you have this, like, my like, you have the proper mindset, then it will happen. And yeah. I don't know.

Alyssa Marley: 25:50

What do you guys think about that?

JClay: 25:52

Yeah. So

Troy Washington: 25:52

No. No. I agree. And and and and I think it go back to the point that I was saying with when on the flip side of it, the person that does not live in gratitude opens up a world of non gratitude. So when I think about, like, you know, the spirit of gratitude, when you when you take all things away and just say that I'm happy, I think it opens up a world for limitless possibilities.

Troy Washington: 26:19

You know, I think about people who are on the street in a sense, not having anywhere to go, but have embraced being on the street, but the creators that they've been able to become because they're gracious of just having an opportunity to be alive. You know what I'm saying? And I I just think that, you know, the the gratitude without any intangible thing tied to it opens you up to have everything in a sense.

JClay: 26:48

So okay. So we all have people around us that might not be so happy right now or in a given moment. Yet, you know, we're being intentional with our happiness. Can we uplift them? Is that even our job?

JClay: 27:03

Should we not even try? Because I I I've been unhappy before trying to make somebody happy, but I wasn't clear on my intention either. So it's it's like can this be gifted easily or does it just depend on you you yourself? You can only control yourself.

Alyssa Marley: 27:20

I think that like if you choose to be happy like it could, you know, help that person to be uplifted, but I don't think it's really our responsibility to change somebody's mindset. But you can always kind of, you know, give the silver lining. Like, yeah. Like, I hear you, but at least this. But sometimes that could be taken as, like, you know, you're not being sincere.

Alyssa Marley: 27:44

You're not really, like, giving them the support that they need. So it just depends on the situation. But I think that, like, it's not a responsibility, and it's also our responsibility to take care of our own our own happiness and spirit because sometimes when you're around people who are super negative, it can bring your vibration down. So at some point, you know, you can be there be be a listening ear and be supportive, but at some point, you have to kinda cut it off depending on how bad the negativity is.

Troy Washington: 28:13

Yeah. And and I and I cosigned, Alisa when she said it's not our responsibility. Like, it's it's it's not your responsibility to make anyone happy. But with that being said, if you are electing to do so, I think that a part of that is you have to be as thoughtful for yours you have to be as thoughtful for people as you are for yourself. And so what I mean by that is it we're we're talking about how much of a, you know, we we're alluding to how much of a challenge it is to choose happiness.

Troy Washington: 28:42

Right? And if for you, you haven't been thoughtful enough to choose happiness and be intentional and be untethered by things, then how could you truly show somebody or lead them to the happiness that you haven't figured out? That's number 1. And so I'm saying if you're going to be that person for somebody as thoughtful as you are for yourself, you have to be as thoughtful for them. And the question is, do you have the capability to do that?

Troy Washington: 29:08

And I think that we do, but if you're not actually practicing it, it's gonna be a very, judgmental and difficult job because you're looking at everything on the surface and saying, well, you would be better off like this, but you don't know how I would be better off.

Alyssa Marley: 29:23

Yeah.

JClay: 29:24

Yeah. That that's real. I, first of all, what Sarah said, I love to imagine them in their highest excitement. Yes. I I do the same thing as well.

JClay: 29:36

And oftentimes, like, I if I notice that someone is unhappy, I I almost try to be extra happy. And I know that some like you said, Alisa, that could sometimes come off as maybe offensive, like but but not not so much. It just depends on your intention and and how you do it. Because, you know, I I I love to to spread happiness. It's one of the the funniest things ever.

JClay: 29:58

And if I can do something real silly to get somebody to laugh, I'm like, yep. I got you. I got you. You're not gonna be sad no more. But at the same time, though, like what was said, you have to know yourself because I've been around people where it's like, man, okay.

JClay: 30:14

I want to remain happy, but I don't have enough on my own right now. I need to exit this situation and just being real with yourself to to know when you need to exit the situation.

Alyssa Marley: 30:24

Yeah. Energy vampires, right? Especially when your tank is low, it can affect you.

JClay: 30:32

Yeah. Yeah. And even to that, though, like to see them as energy vampires, We're trying to strip ourselves from the power, but it's like we it's more we know ourselves. So it's like we're going to feed them either our negative energy and then blame them for it. Or we can just say, you know what?

JClay: 30:52

Let me step back so I can be pure of my heart where I need to be, because I don't I don't feel like I have enough to to give right

Alyssa Marley: 31:00

now.

Troy Washington: 31:00

And and and, again, to me, the way that I I I like to think of these again, we're talking about a feeling here. Right?

JClay: 31:07

Yeah.

Troy Washington: 31:08

But I think that people a part of this is people have shaped or reformed what they feel is their core beliefs. So they're really saying I'm not happy, And it doesn't matter what like, my core belief my core value says this is a messed up situation. And so you you're you're you're coming in combating somebody you like, telling somebody who believes in god that there's no god. Like, you can't change my mind about that.

Alyssa Marley: 31:35

Yeah.

Troy Washington: 31:36

If you're gonna change my mind, you're gonna have to show me. And not only you're gonna have to show me, you're gonna have to show me through trials and tribulation because that's the way that I'm set up. That's the way that I'm built up. And so when you when you start again, when you start thinking about that, that's the reason why us who are talking about how can we maintain this have to be you gotta know who you are. You gotta be firm and resolute in saying that I am okay without everything.

Troy Washington: 32:03

I am happy, and everything else is an addition to. And I you when you are truly like that, you start to, break the the the chinks in other people's armor because they they'll start to question themselves about it. They'll be like, okay. Well, how did they stay happy through this? Okay.

Troy Washington: 32:20

How did they do this? I and and they're gonna they're gonna have their judgments, but the more you do it, the more likely they're to open up and say, you know what? Let me just get a whiff of it. And, hopefully, that whiff might turn it well. It's the domino effect that we're talking about, but go ahead.

JClay: 32:37

Yeah. That that's it's powerful because, like, we we are work in progress where we have to watch ourselves all the time. Well, well, essentially, when we're not happy, that that's when we that that could be the trigger to watch yourself. Like, if you don't, yeah, want to all the time. Because when you're happy, you don't care.

JClay: 32:53

You're just having fun. And it is really our natural state, which is why, you know, kids, you always see a smiling kid. It's rare that you just see a bunch of just bad, mean kids together. Like and I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but, you know, if if kids would just find happiness in the the easiest and the the simplest things. So I I guess that could be a trigger.

JClay: 33:15

That could be a fun way to look at it is, okay. I'm not happy right now. I need to look at myself to to to get back. So so okay. Is it a figuring out why you're unhappy, or is it just that start paying more attention to what does make you happy?

Alyssa Marley: 33:31

You're asking some really good questions. I think it's I think it's both. I think it can be all the things. I think it can be figuring out, you know, what what makes you unhappy or, like, kind of dissecting, like, why you're feeling the way you're feeling to get back to where you were before. I don't know.

Alyssa Marley: 33:52

What do you think?

JClay: 33:54

So, this is this is tough for me because, the last time I was well, when I'm you know, you get, like, super happy sometimes out of nowhere, like like you you I'm usually happy, but sometimes I get super happy and I'm trying to figure out, okay, how did I get like this? This is amazing. I wanna stay like this. But then to try to analyze it, I'm kinda taking myself out of that moment, and it's like, I don't wanna analyze it. So if that's true, could the reverse be at the same time, you shouldn't even analyze your unhappiness.

JClay: 34:24

Maybe you should kinda just start focusing more on happiness and what would make you happy. Oh, yeah. And and Sarah said, figuring it out sometimes gives the negative emotion more momentum. Yes.

Troy Washington: 34:39

And and again, like I told y'all for me, it's it's story of my life because when you when you talk about recognizing the like, I am always turned on to recognize it. And the reason why is because I have kids, and when you talk about look. My kids could come in, and they can look at my face and just be like, what's wrong? Or they can look at my demeanor and be like, what's going on? And so when I say that I'm intentional, I literally have to be intentional all the time.

Troy Washington: 35:11

So the moment when I recognize if I can recognize it before they see it, it's always like, why are you like this at this moment? Like, understand it. And you might not know, but but the the the ideal here is trying. Because when you start to try just like the domino effect of happiness, when you start to try, you there's a domino effect of figuring things out there, the the clues that are laid down. And I think that, because, intentionality is meant to be the whatever you're it's supposed to meant to be solved, I think that just being intentional of thinking about it is the key.

Troy Washington: 35:47

You know, just, you know, I don't understand why I feel like let's dig deeper. What would make me feel like this? If I'm just sitting here in this place right now and nobody's pulling on my hair and nobody's, you know, bugging me, nobody's asking me for anything, why would I be in a state of right now? Okay. Can I change this?

Troy Washington: 36:07

Is this really a bad thing? Am I thinking? You know, just asking yourself all the things that you could potentially think of to figure out the the placement of it. But go ahead, Jay.

JClay: 36:18

Yeah. I'm laughing because you you helped me think of something that I wanna try on somebody. So, you you know, like, your kids come in and, like, what's wrong? And then that could make somebody more mad. Like nothing's wrong.

JClay: 36:28

I'm happy when you're clearly not. But like, what would happen if you ask a person that's clearly mad? Why are you so happy? I don't know what would happen, but I want to try it. Go ahead.

Alyssa Marley: 36:40

Yeah. But depends on the person. But when when you were talking there, Troy, I was just thinking that, like, for instance, like, I I'm in therapy right now, and I think we also talked about this at the beginning of the call too. Like, sometimes you could be feeling something and you don't really know why, and you really have to kind of sit with it. Like, I've had these moments where my therapist is talking to me, and all of a sudden I get tears in my eyes.

Alyssa Marley: 37:05

And she's like, why are you like, why are you getting upset? And I I actually don't know because, like, I'm I'm learning to get to know myself again. So sometimes you just have to sit with it even if you're not really, like, analyzing or or or trying to, like, dissect what it is you're feeling. You're just, like, sitting in the moment and letting your body feel what it's feeling, and then you can kind of figure out, like, why you're feeling that way. Or also, like, you know, when you're in a an argument with somebody and then you kind of, like, there's a root cause to, like, why you're angry, but, like, it could be something, like, so, like, nonchalant.

Alyssa Marley: 37:40

Like, doesn't have anything to do with that. Like, sometimes getting to the the root will help you understand, like, why you're upset so then you can you can, like, fix it. You know?

Troy Washington: 37:50

I I like to call it the blah space because I know exactly what you're talking about. But let me let me tell you about something that happened to me about in 2010 when me and Jay Clay, we were pushing music and we were doing all of this stuff. We were we were going around. We were doing everything. Right?

Troy Washington: 38:05

And one day I just didn't feel good. I went to the I went to they took me to the emergency room. Boom. Doctors said they don't know what's wrong with me. Right?

Troy Washington: 38:13

I have no clue what's wrong with me. And I just said, you know what? I'm just gonna keep on I'm just gonna keep on going. I'm just gonna keep on trucking. Right?

Troy Washington: 38:20

So we're at my cousin's house. Shout out to my cousin, Kim, and she has a son that's, you're younger than my son, so they were playing, running around. We're just having a good time. I'm just having a blast at the house. Right?

Troy Washington: 38:32

And, again, there's no indication that there's anything wrong with me even to myself. Even to myself, I don't there's nothing. I'm I'm literally having a good time. And then all of a sudden, I just busted out crying. I just I'm shaking and I'm crying, and they like, what's wrong with you?

Troy Washington: 38:49

And I was like,

JClay: 38:50

I don't

Troy Washington: 38:51

know. And I'm literally asking myself in the moment. I was like, what the heck, Troy? What and I cannot get to the bottom of why I'm crying, what's wrong with me, why in such a, what I would call, a momentous and I say momentous because everybody's happy. Everybody in the room's happy.

Troy Washington: 39:08

Right? So it's this has to be a great moment. What is wrong with me? And the reality was, in that moment, I could not answer that question. So I cried my eyes out.

Troy Washington: 39:19

And from there, again, just being intentional, I would ask myself every single day. I would keep on asking until, eventually, one day, I got to an answer. And when I got to that answer, I've realized that there was unhappiness. I realized that it was hidden deep now because it it was something that I felt like I could not be unhappy about. And so I concealed it as something completely different.

Troy Washington: 39:46

But because I was willing to be open and recognize and dig, I was able to find it. But again and and again, I know that trying to seek it out, like Sarah said, can sometimes create more negative emotional momentum, but also not trying to figure it out could put you at a place of being lost as well.

JClay: 40:11

So just to be clear, what was the question that you said you continually asked yourself?

Troy Washington: 40:15

I kept asking myself what was wrong. I gotcha. Why why why do you feel like this? Why are you crying for no reason? What happened?

Troy Washington: 40:23

Did something happen? Is it something outside of this room? Because it can't be anything in this room. Okay. What outside of this room could it be?

Troy Washington: 40:29

Is it the music? Now you love making music. Is it because you're doing everything? Now you love doing everything. There was there were just a ton of things that I had to because, again, it's kinda like, it's kinda like men growing up.

Troy Washington: 40:43

Yeah. They tell you you can't cry. Right? And so because you're told you can't cry, that's something that it literally just disappears. And so at moments when you cry, that you're beating yourself up more about crying, and you might not even realize that you're beating yourself up about crying because you created a core value within yourself.

Troy Washington: 41:04

And so it it it's it's it's it's it's that it's that thing. And when it's that deep, it's not a simple solution all the time if you're not willing to put yourself up against it to ask yourself and truly be intentional to figure it out.

JClay: 41:21

Mhmm. Yeah. I I love that. And and to that point, I I guess I'll share my my crying story of no reason. Like, what the heck is going on?

JClay: 41:29

I I I I was watching the Sandlot, the movie, the Sandlot in my adult life, and I hadn't watched it since I was a kid. It's a good movie. It's a fun movie. All of a sudden, tears. I'm like, this is stupid.

JClay: 41:41

What what is going on? Like, I couldn't I couldn't watch the movie. I couldn't finish the movie. I'm like, this is dumb. And then so I was beating myself up for crying because I'm like, this is no reason.

JClay: 41:50

This is not even a sad movie. But but I realized, like, I was watching my life that I forgot about. Like, that was me playing baseball with my friends. That was me just doing all that. It's some and, you know, I just life changes and I just forgot.

JClay: 42:02

So it it was a happiness. Like, it wasn't a it wasn't a bad cry. It was just like, a I don't even I still don't know how to explain it, but I but I know what it was. And it's it's an interesting thing. So I I love these I I love the mixed emotions of this, but the the still root is happiness.

JClay: 42:19

Like, it's all leading toward happiness.

Troy Washington: 42:21

Go ahead. And and and I love that you said that too because I think that's important as well. Because a lot of times, I feel like we feel like other people have to understand where we're coming from, or it's it's not valid or it's not real. And the simple fact that you are able to say, I can't explain what it is, but I know what it is is important because we have to we have to always understand too. There's a chance that nobody might not understand.

Troy Washington: 42:50

And because other people can't understand, we can't place our happiness on other people's understanding of it. Because, again, there goes our happiness eluding us. And so, you know, I I appreciate you saying that because everything inside of you was not meant for everyone to understand also, and that's just my own take on it.

JClay: 43:11

I love that. Did you wanna add something to that, Alicia?

Alyssa Marley: 43:15

I just, like, love that you guys, like, were willing to be vulnerable and just share that. You know, I I've learned too that, like, our thoughts are actually like a physical thing in our brain. And so, like, when you constantly think the same thing, like, over and over and over again, you're actually making, like, this highway or pathway in your brain, and it is extremely difficult to rewire that and change your thought pattern. So it's just really sad that guys nowadays, like, you know, they're taught from, like, a young age that it's not okay to be vulnerable. It's not okay to cry, But, like, you almost feel like you almost get more happy when you do cry because you're, like, releasing this energy, this, like, negative energy.

Alyssa Marley: 43:56

Sometimes you could just feel so uplifted after a really good cry. So I'm just really glad that you guys shared that. That's really awesome.

JClay: 44:03

I mean, I will say, though, that that that taught manliness is still in me. Like, I won't cry in front of anybody.

Alyssa Marley: 44:09

Yeah.

JClay: 44:09

I still but I I'm not gonna lie. I'm a crybaby now, but I won't cry in front of people for whatever reason. Like, now I'm like, I'm a cry later.

Troy Washington: 44:16

Do you know what's what's what's what's what's night night? But what what's funny about that, though, bro, like, I'm the same way too. Again, that that at that moment when that happened to me, I was I was not trying to do that much. Trust me. That much was like I was taken aback by myself.

Troy Washington: 44:31

Like, I can't even believe this is happening. But to your point, though, like, the the craziness is that's the wiring that we're talking about. Because I'm wired that exact same way. Like, if there is resistance that I can put up for that, I'm going to do it simply because whatever reason. And so when you think about somebody being lost and not being able to be happy, that rewiring is what's hard to rewire.

Troy Washington: 44:58

That's the part that's may that makes it feel, almost impossible because you're going against what you said to yourself that you believe. And when you're going against what you said to yourself that what you believe in, not only that, you probably you know, you've given that same rhetoric to other people, like, tell me, kid. Now you know we never like,

JClay: 45:17

you've

Troy Washington: 45:17

built you've you've built a life based off of that. It's tough. It's tough to to say, you know what? Let me just let these tears roll. Know what I'm saying?

Troy Washington: 45:27

Regardless of who's here. Regardless of how I feel about myself because a a big part of this is how I feel about myself when it happens. Because the truth is when you cry, nobody's looking at you like, are you crying? Like, at least not that I've ever witnessed. You know what I'm saying?

Troy Washington: 45:42

Like, normally people would be like, what's wrong? You know what I'm saying? So, you know, go ahead, Jay.

JClay: 45:48

But, no, that that's true. That that's part of the conditioning because as a kid, when I did cry, it was more like, you shouldn't be crying. What you crying for? Get your face together. Like, things like that.

JClay: 45:55

Like, it's that that conditioning that but, right. You're right. As an adult, you don't get that feedback anymore. But it it's like Right.

Troy Washington: 46:01

And and you literally you literally can see it as an adult. Like, you how you felt when you've seen somebody cry, what you've seen other people or how you've seen other people react when they saw somebody cry, but you never really heard, aside from maybe if it was a boxing match or something, but I've never heard anyone ever look at somebody and cry and say, oh, they weak. Oh, they weak. I never heard it.

Alyssa Marley: 46:24

Yeah. That's fair.

JClay: 46:26

I've never heard it. Yeah. That's true. And so so okay. So so would you say another happiness secret at number 3 would be, I guess, not afraid to be vulnerable or not afraid to just be honest with yourself no matter the feeling?

JClay: 46:43

Mhmm.

Troy Washington: 46:44

Yeah.

Alyssa Marley: 46:45

And that's one thing that, like oh, go ahead.

Troy Washington: 46:48

No. No. No. You got it, Alyssa.

Alyssa Marley: 46:50

I was just gonna say, like, that's one thing that we, as a society, struggle with a lot today too is, distractions. You know, we'll feel something, something will come up, and we don't tend to we're not taught to sit with it and just, like, figure it out and feel. Like, we're always doing something to, like, coat those emotions, whether it be TV, food, drugs, like, alcohol, all these things. Like, it's that is something that we have to reteach ourselves is, like, to sit with it and know that everything's gonna be okay. That's one thing I'm learning.

Troy Washington: 47:23

That that's why for myself, bro, I love social media, specifically places like TikTok. And, again, this is just my interpretation of the life that I live is I think that most people are unhappy because they feel judged in them being who they are. And so when you start to take on and, again, this doesn't mean that you're being judged because just like I'm saying, you never hear anybody say somebody they cry. Like, people see themselves being themselves, and they feel judged so that they choose not to be themselves. The reason why I bring social media into it is because I love people who get on and be themselves.

Troy Washington: 48:04

Not only do I love it, so does everybody else, which is the reason why we get hooked in to social media or TikTok because we love people being them. And I just think that freedom, that that that vulnerability like, I've seen people before TikTok that would never have, at least in my my own mind, giving themselves out the way that they've given themselves out. Right?

Alyssa Marley: 48:29

Yeah.

Troy Washington: 48:30

Oh, go ahead, Jay. Go ahead.

JClay: 48:32

I want to say, though, also as a consumer of social media, it's important to know where you're at because, like, based on what you 2 just said, I've witnessed where I could I could be scrolling. And in one instance, I'm ready to to maybe be angry or something. Then next one, I'm ready to to be like, oh, that's so nice. And then the next instance, I'm happy. And then the next instance, like, I'm sad or like, it is you go through so many emotions so fast, you never really get time to just sit with it.

JClay: 48:59

And so it's it's important how you're using social media too. Like, Like, in the case that you brought up, Troy, like that, yes, that's perfect as as a producer of content, so to speak. But as a consumer, it's important to kinda know where you're at and not bring so much to your viewing experience.

Troy Washington: 49:16

And and, to your point that I I think that that's a a practice. I mean, you literally could get on and practice gratitude regardless of what you see if you have no other way to do that Because you are right. You do feel all these emotions. But you just like I know you do because we're talking about it. I do the exact same thing.

Troy Washington: 49:37

I've looked at things, and I've passed judgment on it when I first saw it, but then I also went back and say, you know what? You know what? I'm tripping. That's not even what that's not even what that really is. You know what I mean?

Troy Washington: 49:48

And so I think that you you have the opportunity to relinquish judgment on things, which also relinquishes judgment on you, which in turn helps you to receive your happiness because you're doing it by looking at other people. But that's just again, that's just my take on it.

JClay: 50:04

Yeah. Yeah. And and to that too, I've heard too, like, if you look at someone doing what you want to do and you're judging them negatively, like, you're making it harder on yourself to do what you wanna do. You're saying, you know, I I I can't be happy doing this because I'm mad at them for being happy doing this. And it it's it's crazy, but I've done that before.

JClay: 50:26

And I've checked myself on it too. Like, I'm I'm glad I'm past though though that stage now, but, yeah, it it's it's it's important to stay in tune with your thoughts and how you're feeling at every moment.

Troy Washington: 50:38

You know how much stuff I'd have missed in my life by saying somebody was wack for doing something? And then later on, coming back and doing it myself and, like, dang. I was tripping. Bro, bro, trust me. I'm with you 100% on that.

Alyssa Marley: 50:51

Yeah.

JClay: 50:54

So is there anything we've missed from the happiness secret or the secrets to happiness? Like we said, we talked about gratitude for number 1. Number 2, who was number 2? Being intentional. Being intentional.

JClay: 51:07

Number 3, being being okay with being honest with yourself or vulnerable with yourself. 4, you just talked about not judging or being mindful of your judgments. You know, are you judging against what you want? Is there anything that we missed?

Troy Washington: 51:26

I would just say, you know, just emphasizing to people that,

JClay: 51:37

you just just choose

Troy Washington: 51:39

to be happy even when you don't feel it. You know what I mean? I mean, I I know that that's kinda similar to gratitude, but I'm just saying, like

Alyssa Marley: 51:49

Yeah. Just It's

Troy Washington: 51:50

it's just just choose. You know? It it don't it don't it's not gonna always look the same in all instances either. Sometimes it's gonna be more difficult than the than others. But just choose and allow yourself to look through those lenses so that way you can find more of what you're looking for.

JClay: 52:07

Mhmm.

Troy Washington: 52:10

What what

JClay: 52:10

would you say? Would you add anything to that, Alyssa?

Alyssa Marley: 52:13

Yeah. It's basically kind of what you just said, just like choosing to be positive. You know? Just like that positive lens, basically, what you just said because, you know, we can choose to be negative or we can choose to be positive. But if we choose to be positive, then it'll be easier to be happy.

JClay: 52:30

Yeah. I I was thinking about, like, this actually made me happy, but I was thinking about, like, let's say I was mad for some reason, but I'm like, I'm being happy right now. I'm I'm happy. Like, I would laugh at myself in that instant. So in many ways, yeah, it is true.

JClay: 52:43

Like, choose choose happiness. And, shout out to my dad. He said, loving your neighbor as yourself.

Troy Washington: 52:50

Yeah. Yes. I got one more too. And it's it's not because it's it's something that you've been saying this entire show over and over again, J. Clay.

Troy Washington: 52:58

You alluded to it in a couple of your stories. But I think that when you're hit when you actually are happy, the times when you are happy, recognize it and understanding why. Like, recognizing what actually made you happy so that way you can replicate or duplicate. But go ahead, J.

JClay: 53:16

But what I was saying to that before is like I've tried sometimes and it's it's tough. Like, I'm in my state. I just want to spread it everywhere. Like, I'm just like, man, I was just so happy right now. Why am I so happy?

JClay: 53:28

And I'm trying to trace it. But then it takes me away from it. So I'm like, forget it. I'm just going to I'm just going to just be in this happiness and just just ride it as long as possible, but not not with the intent that it will fade. Just really enjoying it while it's here.

JClay: 53:42

So you

Alyssa Marley: 53:42

being present?

JClay: 53:43

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Troy Washington: 53:45

In the moment, baby, I like it. I like it.

JClay: 53:49

So, yes. So, okay. So, yeah, so one, I appreciate everyone that has been rocking with us. I appreciate our guest, Alyce, is something paired with, Something Paranormal podcast. Do you want to tell us about that real quick?

Alyssa Marley: 54:01

Yeah. Sure. So, basically, I've just become, like, obsessed with, like, anything that's surrounded with, like, the paranormal spirituality, all these things like near death experiences. So I decided to make a podcast because I love podcasts, and I'm like, why not? So I'm interviewing people from, like, INs, which I know you're a part of, and, just people that I found, like, on social media, and I'm sharing their stories.

Alyssa Marley: 54:25

It's been a journey. I love it.

Troy Washington: 54:27

And how long have you been?

Alyssa Marley: 54:30

It's been for about a little bit over a year. I've been going on now.

JClay: 54:35

And real quick for our audience, because everybody might not know what in the ease are and like what that entails. Can you give like just something you learned real quick, like, while listening to these stories?

Alyssa Marley: 54:46

Yeah. So near death experiences or NDEs are just like when people have had a brush with death and they they go to the other side and they come back and they share their experiences of what what happened to them. So sometimes it could be, like, euphoria. Sometimes it could be, like, actually seeing, like, what's happening if they're, like, in a hospital. So it's pretty interesting because we don't know what's gonna happen when we die.

Alyssa Marley: 55:10

So it's really fascinating to talk to people that have experienced something and come back.

JClay: 55:16

I love that. And and if people want to, to to subscribe and and find you, this is your Instagram, but it, anywhere else?

Alyssa Marley: 55:25

I'm also on TikTok. There's something paranormal pod is the handle, and on Facebook, something paranormal podcast.

JClay: 55:32

Awesome.

Troy Washington: 55:34

I like that. Like that. You're right. We don't know we don't know nothing. That's what I say.

Troy Washington: 55:38

We don't know nothing. We know everything, and we don't know nothing. Keep on going. Keep on growing. You're gonna do something.

JClay: 55:45

Right. And that's the fun of it. Every moment is different. So it's like Yeah. Experience the moment that you're in now because it's gonna change right now.

JClay: 55:53

It just changed.

Alyssa Marley: 55:54

Yep.

Troy Washington: 55:55

And I wanna I wanna do this real quick as well. Just kick a shout out to Loretta for joining, Betty, Sarah, and also Robert Clay because, again, you know, we always wait for any additional commentary we give because y'all are helping us to recognize, you know, accept and realize our perfection. And, you know, just just showing y'all that y'all are definitely a positive, value to the show, and we appreciate y'all's comments as well. Yeah.

JClay: 56:21

So if you found this helpful, be sure to hit that like, subscribe, share. We're here every Sunday from noon to 1 CST. Appreciate everybody. And any last words from y'all before we wrap it up?

Alyssa Marley: 56:33

Well, I just wanted to say thank you guys so much for having me on. This has been such an honor, and it's been so fun.

JClay: 56:41

Cool.

Troy Washington: 56:41

Well, I I will always tell you, like, I love guests that come in and, first of all, be yourself because ultimately, you know, in the spirit of the show, that's when we get to be our happiness. Just seeing you smile, that actually, you know, brought smiles to us from the beginning of the show to the end. I also wanna, you know, invite you back, you know, let you know that, you know, whenever time permits and we actually have a show that you feel like fits, you know, something that you can you can discuss, then we definitely wanna have you back. I wanna thank everybody again outside of the people that, I already thank just for joining us because without y'all, we wouldn't be here. We'd definitely be doing something.

Troy Washington: 57:17

But just understanding that this is a shared experience. And, you know, all the, you know, all the people whether you're looking at us live, looking at us later, you know, coming back and sending us messages and our invites, which we get from time to time, You just don't realize how much better you make us, how much, you you know, you help us to realize our perfection, and we're glad and appreciative that you allow us to be a part of your life that way. And, just, you know, like, you know, Jay said, you know, y'all are perfect and, you know, we definitely encourage everybody to come back, like, share and subscribe, every week. And, Jay, you can take us out, man.

JClay: 57:51

Real quick before before I take take us out, I'm grateful for Alisa for pointing out to me that you can't be in a state of gratitude and unhappy at the same time. Like, it's impossible. And it is so simple. It's so, like, oh, I did not not remember this going for I mean, I'm gonna remember going forward, but it's like, I wish I put the correlation together sooner. But yeah.

JClay: 58:10

Anyway, appreciate y'all again. Remember your perfect creation made by a perfect creator, so you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect

Troy Washington: 58:19

mode.

JClay: 58:23

Yeah. If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect welcome to perfect where there are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, the spiritual teacher. With my co host, Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor, let's be real.

JClay: 58:49

So let's be perfect.

Troy Washington: 58:52

Perfect. Everything. Anything. Anything. Anything.

Troy Washington: 58:54

Anything. Anything. Perfect. Everything. Anything.

Troy Washington: 58:57

Anything. Perfect. Everything. Anything. Anything.

Troy Washington: 59:02

Anything.

JClay: 59:29

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.