S5E35: The Real Reason You Feel Unfulfilled (And How to Fix It)
If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? To perfect tomorrow. Welcome to perfect tomorrow. Where there are no excuses, no expectations, world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, a spiritual teacher, with my cohost Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor.
JClay:Let's be real. So let's be perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.
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Troy Washington:What up? Welcome to Perfect Mode. And off, let me start by telling y'all that we love y'all. We're grateful for the opportunity to be anywhere sharing our thoughts. Hopefully, in helping you realize that you are perfect.
Troy Washington:And the reason why I can say that unapologetically is because I know that you are one of one numero uno. You cannot be replicated, duplicated, and the only reason and I mean, the only reason you would think otherwise is if you're looking at this person on the side of you and saying, I'm not them. But guess what? You are you and that's all you need. And of course, it's yours truly.
Troy Washington:Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. And I have my boy Jay Clay spiritual rapper and teacher. Just know he got music out for y'all right now. Just in case you don't know. Make sure you clock log on and grab it.
Troy Washington:And of course today we're about to jump on and talk about the real reason you feel unfulfilled and how to fix it. What up, Jay?
JClay:Yo. Happy Sunday to all my perfect people out there in the perfect time at the perfect place in perfect land in this perfect world of ours. Yes. It is perfect. We're gonna help you see the perfection of it all.
JClay:And, yeah, man, this is a it's a beautiful day, beautiful Sunday. Happy to do this. Happy to to be back on on the on these wonderful Sundays. And, yeah, we got a a a good topic. When it when I was getting the stuff together for this, I was like, man,
Troy Washington:this is it's a good topic.
JClay:It's yeah. So
Troy Washington:so I guess in kicking this thing off, when you saw this topic, what were you thinking? What what came across your mind?
JClay:Well so one thing I I I like to one thing I'm I'm appreciative of is the wording for this. It says, like, the real reason you feel unfulfilled, not that you are unfulfilled, because, like, you can you can truly never be unfulfilled, but you can feel it. You can make yourself believe certain things, and it's really not that hard to get back to it. It's just we we've kinda have a backwards value system. We we place value in things that we really never wanted to value in the place, and then we wonder why it's a struggle to uphold this value because it's like you're you're almost, like, forcing yourself to to live a life you don't wanna live when you already know the life you wanna live, but maybe for some reason, it could be fear or just misalignment that you think that you can't live it, and we're here to say you can.
Troy Washington:Yeah. That's real. That's real. Yeah. And I will say that you can.
Troy Washington:Like my boy just said. And I and I will tell you the thing that came to my mind when I saw it was how would you feel unfulfilled? Like, I literally was thinking to myself, what reason or what would cause me to feel unfulfilled? And the reason why I say it that way or specifically that way is because I think about life just in general. And what I mean is we wake up whether we set the intention or not.
Troy Washington:But we wake up intentionally to do things every day. And we can go through our entire day. We can go through our entire week. We can go through our entire month just doing things. And if you are not setting the intention in a sense cause there is intention that's being set.
Troy Washington:Either somebody setting it for you, history is setting it for you, your family is setting it for you, but if you're not setting the intention, then you just end up doing a bunch of things. And so you're feeling something, but you feel unfulfilled because it's not what you see for yourself. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Like like, usually, that that the unfulfillment feelings come when like you said, actually, you know, for me, the the times that I have noticed them whenever I had felt that back in the day was like, when you come across somebody who is fulfilled and you see it, like, they they they they're just in their bag. They they just doing them for the sake of doing them. They're happy. They're successful in their field.
JClay:They they're just doing everything that they love, and you can see it as oozing off of them. Everyone they come in contact with is feeling like just the the vibration off of them, and it's almost like, dang. I want that. And then you start looking at your your life from a different lens. Like, yeah, I have, like you said, just been going, just been doing, doing, doing.
JClay:I'm almost on autopilot. I haven't even realized why I'm doing this or the intent behind it. I haven't even stopped to to just even acknowledge what I'm doing or where I'm headed or where I think I'm headed to even know if I'm being fulfilled or not. And so all those things come into play and we may look at them with a negative lens because it's like, man, I'm not there yet. But even though you're in many ways, you're right where you're supposed to be.
JClay:But, yeah, ahead.
Troy Washington:You know, it was funny about your indication, like, of when you it's it's it's funny because I felt that before. That's what's funny. But the other thing is for me, the the trigger for me is repetition uncomfortable repetition. I was trying to think of the best way to explain it. But what I mean is when you get on autopilot and it gets boring.
Troy Washington:Right? When you're on autopilot and it's boring because in my own mind, even things that you have intentionality behind and you can be on autopilot with, there's there's a sense of seeking like this. I guess not seeking. There's always a joy about what you're doing. Versus saying, oh, I'm about to do this again and and and again, I and I said that to say that even things that fulfill us can be things that we are autopilot with but there's just a different feeling that you have about it but go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah, like like, the simplest things really do bring us the most joy. But we we start giving into these beliefs that in order to be fulfilled, you have to do x y z. But then you do x y z, and you're like, nah, man. I'm not feeling fulfilled. But then you trick yourself into believing, well, I'll be fulfilled later.
JClay:I'll be fulfilled later. If I just do this, if I just do that, I'll be fulfilled later. And later can never come because it's always later. Like, you're you're always here and now. And the thing is, how do I say this?
JClay:It really comes down to our belief system. Like, feeling unfulfilled allows us to look at what we truly value, what we hold dear to our hearts, and why are we afraid to move in that direction if we aren't already? Because when we are, like, when when you when you fulfilled and you see other fulfilled people, you're happy. Like, it it doesn't bother you at all. Like, you you are truly happy for that person.
JClay:Like, man, look at them. That's what I'm talking about. Do that. You I love that you're doing that. I love that you're stepping into that.
JClay:But when you're not feeling that way and you see somebody happy like that, it's it's one of the worst things, and you compare yourselves to them, which we know we should never compare ourselves to anyone. But it it is our it's our ego saying like, yeah. You're you're this age. You should have this by now. What do you what's wrong with you?
JClay:Why don't you have this? Why aren't you doing this? You've been doing this for how long? You wanna switch careers? You wanna do all that?
JClay:And we're we're making it seem like it's this big thing, but it's not. And we can easily switch from that.
Troy Washington:So I had two thoughts that came to my head, and I and I don't want to stray too far away from what we're doing, but it's just what what what I hear. So number one, and I and I love this point because I think that it goes whether you feel like you're too old or you feel like you're too young and one of the things you said, I feel like I'm too old or I should have already have done this by now, right? So, that's the point that I want to make and again, that's either for old or young. It doesn't matter how old you truly are. It's just that based off of my age, this I should have started, I should be done, or I should be in my prime of it no matter what, right?
Troy Washington:And I I I guess the reason why I point those things out is because one of the biggest things that we do in life is try to age all things. Like we try to put an age on all things. And funny enough and I'm going use music as an example. Use it as us, right? Since I was a kid, there was an age on how long you should be able to rap.
Troy Washington:It's just it's just point blank period, right? There's also a such thing as an age that you should be able to make music. Even though there's all the evidence in the world that people do these things beyond the ages that people have said, right? I'll use basketball that also as an example. LeBron James, my favorite player of all times.
Troy Washington:What I've seen watching basketball as much as I have my entire life, Players wind down at an age. They it's it's it's like it's automatic. It's like, okay, right now, I'm at the age where I should be winding down because at this age is when it's supposed to stop. Even though there's evidence whether you use LeBron, you use Robert Parrish, you use Kareem Abdul Jabbar, all of these people that have done it before you but yet and still because of this age, I have to dwindle that. I gotta start decelerating myself, right?
Troy Washington:And again, these are the type of things that make you feel unfulfilled because everything in you is telling you to keep going. Everything in you is telling you I feel good here but yet still because of parameters that have been set, I'm going to decelerate who I am. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and and even even using basketball as an example, like, you look at somebody as decorated as as Michael Jordan, his three championships were different because even he believed in the wear down, but he didn't let that deter him because he was like, well, my mind is sharper than ever. I know this game. I don't even have to do all of that effort. And and the same thing about, you know, anybody watching this that feels like age is a catalyst.
JClay:Like, no. You have so much wisdom, and you will do things in such a way that others wouldn't do it, which makes that unique to you, which makes that like you're uniquely suited for that you want to step into. And and and even at one, like, one thing I want to talk about to that is we often prioritize what doesn't actually matter to us. Like and and, again, like, in in the reason to feel unfulfilled. And I guess an example would be, like, let's say you wanna do a podcast.
JClay:Right? And you'd be like what's an example? Uh-huh. I don't have no don't have an intro song right now. I can't I can't release a podcast.
JClay:I don't have an intro song like perfect mode. Like, what? The intro song doesn't matter. Like, you you have wisdom to give. You have a unique perspective to share, or you have guests you wanna interview and get their perspective.
JClay:That has nothing to do with that. Like like, do what matters to you. Do what fills you. Like, we make music, so it was only natural that we would have a a music intro. But that that's just a mild example.
JClay:It's it's all across the board. Focus on what matters to you. But go ahead.
Troy Washington:So so it's two things. So keep that up, though. Keep the you're prioritizing. Right? Because I wanna touch on the Michael Jordan example that you gave.
Troy Washington:And, again, to me, that is the prime example of being unfulfilled and so so you're right. When he won this championship that you're talking about, he went off to either retire or do something different, right? And then, this is what I imagine. Of course, I don't know this but this is just me, you know, imagining even other people outside of him. He, there was a sense of loss for him.
Troy Washington:He felt like he was missing something. These are indicators that will show you and again, no, he's he's the he's one of the richest people in the world. He can have anything he want. He have, you know, kids. He got all of this stuff but yet and still, he was still yearning for that basketball And so he's able to come back because he he he felt empty in a sense, right?
Troy Washington:And then when he would when he came back and and and I can use the back end of his career, though we had all these expectations for him and how to perform and what they should do and he should win three more and all this different stuff. His mentality could have been there but when that slipped beyond him, he still was fulfilled because he was still doing what he wanted to do. That's number one. And then number two, when we come back to prioritizing what doesn't, I mean, what doesn't actually matter to you, that should be the trigger for yourself to to realize what your purpose is. Using the the podcast as the example, you you saying that I want to create a podcast but for what reason?
Troy Washington:And then if you can remember what that reason is, all of those things that you're prioritizing can won't won't matter anymore because if my mission is, I experience something in my life and I want to make sure everybody knows not to go through this anymore. That's what I want to do no matter what and I gotta do it in podcast format. Now, the camera, the lighting, none of that matters because my entire purpose is to prevent anybody walking down the path that I walked in and so I can't I can't allow things to prevent me from moving forward for for fulfilling myself in a way that I know how. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and another example I want to give to this prioritizing things that don't actually matter are, like, the news. Right? You don't need to know all the news. You don't need to know what's going on with other people.
JClay:You don't. You you you said that you're like, no. It affects me what they do in the world because it's gonna trickle down to this. I gotta be up on this. I gotta know.
JClay:Like, no. You don't. As as someone who is who is hasn't watched the news in hundreds of thousands of years, it feels like, you don't need to know it. It is a distraction. It will it will get you to maybe not trust people, not trust yourself, to fear your fellow neighbor instead of love them and work with them.
JClay:They they might have something you need, but you fear them because you watch this one story that happened to these people on the other side of the world or something, and you are internalizing it to yourself. Doesn't matter to you. Like, what what Matt like, if you're gonna look at news, look at news in the field of what you're exploring and look but actually not even that. Look for news in the positivity way in the positiveness of what what you're exploring. Like because you could look up 10 ways podcast failed.
JClay:Like, no. Look up 10 ways podcast succeed. This is just for the podcast example. But whatever you're doing, that is what you can tune into, but all this other stuff is just a distraction.
Troy Washington:So, you know, I'm a I'm I'm going to cosign you 100% on this with one caveat and the reason why I cosign you is because I don't watch the news either. Yeah. And it's specifically for the reason that you said. But what I would say is if there's purpose in it for you. If it's going to fulfill you.
Troy Washington:And then I and I and again I'm going to give you a specific scenario only because I don't know all the scenarios in the world. Right? Because I don't know what everybody needs. But I just assume based off people that I've been around, they're not fulfilled watching the news. They're just trying to know what's going on.
Troy Washington:But if you're a person that wants to be a newscaster and you're trying to identify the way that things should be presented, figure out structure. Now, you have a reason. You have a purpose for it. That and again, this is just my own opinion of that but I'm just saying, I agree with you, Jay Clay, because at the end of the day, what I found for myself when I watched the news and you talk about feeling unfulfilled, I feel myself with a bunch of things that don't matter and that's the point that you're making with the the the title that you just gave us. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Let's let's keep it going. Like, another reason you feel unfulfilled is you're following rules you never agreed to. Now this this this can have many meanings and it is many things we can go into, but one in particular is, like, I I noticed that people would uphold rules or enforce rules that they didn't agree with. Like, they just did it just because it was done to them.
JClay:Well, that's what was done to me. This is just how to do it. Like, you didn't enjoy this. Why are you trying to enforce someone to do it this way? Why are you trying to, like, force this upon them?
JClay:Because you're keeping yourself in this space. Like, a lot of times, you know, people believe an action deserves punishment or something. Like, it could have been an accident or whatever. You gotta be punished. You gotta do this.
JClay:You don't you don't enjoy punishment in any way. What do you or unless you make might truly learn something from punishment. Me, I learned, I'm not gonna share certain things with with certain people because they feel the need to punish or I don't know. It's it might not be the lesson that you intended to learn, for the reason of that. Like, you know, I I see that with with people talking about parenting.
JClay:I'm not a parent, but I see people, you know, talking about parenting their kids a certain way. They need this. They need that. Like, how do you know? Like, you you don't this this could be an isolated incident.
JClay:It it's so many things, but I say this to say, be mindful of the rules you enforce because you could be holding yourself in in that so that now you have to live through it, and then your life is like, why is my life full of pain and punishment? It's because you you wanna punish everybody else. So anything you do that you don't think is perfect, you punish yourself for.
Troy Washington:You know, it's funny about this part, bro, like, following a rule you never agree to. And I'm a tell you this about something that happened to me today leaving the basketball game. But I'll start by saying this. We have a running joke in my house. And whenever we're watching shows, you know, whenever you're watching the scene in a show and a dramatic effect happens where somebody's arguing or something crazy happens, I always tell Chardonnay, you already know if if that was happening while I was there, I would be that person that would just be sitting right there looking like this.
Troy Washington:I would just be, I I I mean, you're doing it in public. I don't have any reason to run, no gun, anything. So, I'm going to be tuned in, right? And so, she always, we always joke about it because she be like, why would you just sit right there and watch them? Because they want everybody to see, right?
Troy Washington:But what happened today was, bro, when we were, when we were leaving the basketball game, we pulled up into this gas station in Oklahoma and it's called Quick Trip or some QT or some QT or something like that, And I'm pumping gas and while I'm pumping gas, there's a guy who walks out the store. He's a oh oh guy. He gotta be in his seventies, right? And he have on some shorts and a belt and a and a shirt and his pants are slowly sliding down. Now, I'm looking from where I'm at.
Troy Washington:They slide down. I'm like, I was like, oh man. His pants going to fall all the way down. Like, that must have a foul and she looked and she like, no, he just wanted like that. I was like, no, I saw them mud slide down and so what happens is when they they was just about to drop and he grabbed and pulled him up And then he looks around to look and see if anybody was looking at it.
Troy Washington:But you know what I was doing. I was just looking, right? And Sharnay, she looked at me and she turned away because she didn't want him to see her looking, right? Now, these are the rules that we never agreed to, right? Yeah.
Troy Washington:There's no rule that I have to stop looking at anything that's right in front of me and I'm not going to act like it's I'm I'm feel any type of way about it, right? And then she said, well, you supposed to stop looking because he's going to feel more embarrassed. Oh, she said, don't you feel embarrassed? I said, well, I need to feel embarrassed for. My pants ain't falling down and she said, well, he going to feel more embarrassed and I said, how do you know he going to feel more embarrassed?
Troy Washington:I wouldn't feel more embarrassed. I just, how my pants feel down and so, it's just funny how, again, these are the type of things that are going on around us all the time. Dictating our actions, dictating how we feel, and we get caught up in it and that's the reason why again, I, to me, that was one of the funniest moments. Even the point of him looking at me, look at him. You know what I mean?
Troy Washington:It made my day. So, you know, it's just it's just one of those examples. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And and the truth is, it probably made it too because now you're like, man, my pants feel down and somebody saw me. I I looked around somebody and saw me. They saw me. And and so, like but yeah. But but it's true.
JClay:Like, I I feel the same way. Like, when people talk extra loud in in a quiet setting, they they wanna be heard. Like, I I haven't done this in a long time, but I have done it before where somebody was just on the phone, and I didn't know. I'm like, what? What happened?
JClay:Like, just because you loud. Like, if, you know, you bringing that in here, obviously, you want somebody to to talk to and I'm feeling that type of way today. So, I'm with it.
Troy Washington:And and two, the other parts of this, again, these are just examples, but that's where a photo bomb comes from. Think about how many times me and you jumped in somebody's photo. Now, the reality of it is, the rules of the rest of the world, nobody wants you to do that in a sense, right? But at the same time, it's one of those things that make our life fun, right? Yeah.
Troy Washington:When we when we went to Disney World in March, me and my family, we were walking into Animal Kingdom and they have this big tree of life thing that's out there and everybody's trying to take pictures in in front of it and I was like, okay, Imma take the selfie. We all get together and the lady was like, hey, you want me to take the picture for y'all? And I was like, yeah, that's fine. So, she takes the picture but she takes a picture herself right? And this is funny.
Troy Washington:I don't know that she take the picture herself. She take a picture herself and she take a picture of us, right? So then, I'm like, well, you want me to take a picture of your family too? And she's like, yeah. So, when she gets there, not knowing that she did it, I took a picture of myself then I took a picture of her family, right?
Troy Washington:And so, I told her like, yeah, I took a picture of myself. You know what I'm saying? She like, that's that's that's crazy and then I scrolled through my pictures and I saw her too and again, this is something that you you you would think that you're not supposed to do but there's an amount of joy that me and this lady and maybe her family did out of this because we we agree to what may happen in the moment. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And you and it works the other way too. Like, you won't believe how many times maybe someone has adamantly said a rule or something like, you gotta do this or or something. And in my head, I'm like, I ain't even doing that, dude.
Troy Washington:That's a rule.
JClay:Yeah. I'm I'm I'm not trying to get into no arguments. I'm not about to argue with you and tell you that I'm not gonna do it. But in my mind, I know, nope. There's there's nothing you can do to make me try to I don't know to enforce this rule.
JClay:I I can't think of a real life example right now, but I I I just remember growing it up. And even sometimes, to this day, like, the the seriousness of people. It's something about me and, like, people that are too serious. I gotta, like, pick at it a little bit because that's that's that's that's the that's the rules that I didn't agree to or I agreed to. But I I I said it to say that live your rule.
JClay:You don't even gotta tell people the rule that you're living, but live the rule you want to live and don't try to enforce the other stuff that that you have no business living or that you don't even care about.
Troy Washington:I gotta repeat what you said, and I'm I'm gonna read the topic one more time. The reason you the reason you feel unfulfilled and how to fix it. Jay Clay just said, live your rule, your rule. And the other parts of that, this is a key to it. You don't gotta tell nobody, right?
Troy Washington:So, like, and and again, this is just how I perceive the world. When you start telling people your rule, you're wanting them to abide by your rule. You wanted them to fit within your scope of how the world should work and I'm saying this because I've been a culprit of it. I've been a person that have emphasized. I I ain't even going to say tell somebody rude.
Troy Washington:I've been a person that has emphasized my rule. This is why this feels this way. This is why this is that good. But another freeing thing when you feel unfulfilled, you you can feel unfulfilled by making this rule somebody else's rule too, right? And the times when I felt the freeze is number one, when I didn't tell nobody my rule and I didn't feel like somebody else had to abide by my rule because I was completely free in those moments.
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Like, people were trying to say, do do as I say it, not as I do, but, like, nah. Like, you gotta live your own rule. Like, if you're gonna tell somebody your rule, you gotta live it or it has no power. It means nothing.
JClay:So the the the next thing when you feel unfulfilled is you've been trained to want things that don't satisfy you. Man, how many times have I seen this? Like, what what that's one thing I'm grateful for that, I always wanted what I wanted. Whether other people wanted it or not or whether it's a million people wanted this other thing, I don't want that. Like, I'm I'm I'm I've always been secure in my wants or desires that I'm grateful for, but I I've seen it so many times where people are trying to fulfill that status quo of certain things, and it's like, you you don't even want that.
JClay:Like, why do you why do you break in your back trying to live this way and you, that's not even what you want.
Troy Washington:You know what's funny, bro? And and to me, my life and I think everybody, you know what I'm saying? I I these these things that we're talking about, we all experience in some kind of way but again, I just gave you a story about, you know, me, you know, having to try to operate within somebody else's rules but here's another example. From today, you've been, you've been trained to want things that don't satisfy you and and I'm using these examples because I want us to all see how they can fly under the radar and you don't even recognize them. On the same trip, when we were leaving from the gas station after we were joking about the man, pants falling down, right?
Troy Washington:We we knew that we were going to go get some breakfast. It's morning time. We're to stop somewhere at some restaurant and get some breakfast. And then as we're driving, you know, we try to decide on where to go and we decide and I said, well, you know what? I'm going to we're going to get y'all what y'all want and then when I get to the house, I'm just going to get some noodles, right?
Troy Washington:And my wife looked at me. She was looking like, noodles? Right? And I was like, yeah and she said, so you you going to eat noodles this early in the morning? And I was like, yes.
Troy Washington:And she's like, but it's breakfast time. I know. And and I and again, this was not serious between us but I literally said to how I said, so, I have to eat what y'all want to eat in order for y'all to be okay. Like, that's what we doing out here today and you know, again, this was not even that serious. It's just my wife wanting me to eat out like everybody else but at the end of the day, I knew what I wanted and a lot of times when you know what you want, there's going to be outside forces that are going to try to move you in a different direction.
Troy Washington:But you gotta stand firm. I knew what I wanted. It it wasn't no deviation. And I coulda easily and the funny part about it is, as we were driving, I thought to myself, maybe I should get something, Kanes, right? But the reality was me knowing myself, no, get what you want because then, you're going to feel happy and along that path, I had no problem.
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Dak.
JClay:Yeah. And even to your point, I I've done what you said where I was like, fine. I'll I'll eat this. And what happened? Felt unfulfilled.
JClay:But I'm full, and it's it's just wasted. I just gotta wait till this this meal goes away, but I still want what I want because that that hasn't changed. Like, I still want that as my next meal or whatever just because I didn't fulfill my want the the right way. And, yeah. And and, again, I I don't I don't know why we do that to ourselves.
JClay:I don't know why I did that. Maybe we think it's it's something noble about it, like, foregoing our wants for someone else. Because it it's not that it's not that we're sacrificing theirs. Like, we're saying still get what you want. Still do what you wanna do.
JClay:I just wanna do this as well. And I'm and I'm support I'm in full support of you doing what you wanna do.
Troy Washington:But this is what's cool too about this thing though. Right? And I'm a use you and I as an example. There was a time where you were coming down to my house probably every two weeks. At least, you know, you you were just doing that mud, right?
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And you know, for everybody listening, we we were we were recording ciphers and things of that nature just putting out content and we were content providers then at Y. But anyways, I knew at this time and you are now but I knew Jay Clay was vegan at this time. Now, this is an a case of I wanted to make sure all the time that when he came to kick it with me, he did what he wanted or he did the thing that satisfied him when it came to eating. Simple, right?
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:But this was the caveat to that. I think and again, this is not something that me and him have talked about prior to this conversation right now but I think that my intention being said, again, I wasn't going to sacrifice who I was but I was going to make sure that I made his trip easier since he was sacrificing coming from his house to my house, right? But even getting still, every time we picked a restaurant, he made sure that I had what I wanted to and again, the reason why I point that out is because he was so sinning himself. I I I won't say that I had to fold but I had to find a a common ground. And the reason why I paint that picture is that whenever you are when you're when you're not doing what you've been trained to do other people around you will do the same and you will find a media a median that you can be satisfied and fulfill yourself.
Troy Washington:But go ahead Jay.
JClay:And just to clarify to those listening, like, we stay in two different cities. So it was like I was doing, like, a four hour drive every trip, like, every two weeks to because we we're doing, like we had our whole record label everything. But but but what I wanna say too, like, a keyword and you've been trained to want things that don't satisfy you, that word trained. Yeah. Trained.
JClay:So it's like, who trained me? How was I trained? What was I trained by? What was I trained to do? And were they were they the the right trainer for me?
JClay:Like, this art that I'm trained in, is this what I want? Is does this truly fulfill me? And am I afraid to break free from it because, you know, this is all I know. This is this is who I think I am, but you're not just that. You as as we as we can give countless examples, even in even everybody's life has countless examples of them stepping into a new paradigm of of themselves and surprising themselves about what they're capable of.
JClay:So even even if you did something for one hundred years and you don't wanna do it a hundred and one, don't.
Troy Washington:And and I will say that even to Jay Clay's point, who trained me to recognize that you're always being trained. You know, it doesn't stop. You know, that's the reason why you can't step into a new paradigm is because there's always some kind of training going on and then there's also a concrete reaffirming in all of it within yourself. And so you identifying either you're being trained or what you've been trained, you being able to, I guess, analyze that and recognize that you can make whatever adjustments that you need to make before it's concrete for real. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and I wanna, you know, pause to just ask an audience a question. It's kinda rhetorical just just to yourself, but if no one was watching, what would you do differently? And and and just just for myself how this question was important, I remember it was a time when, like, like, with the music, it was hard to get it out there. Like, we we didn't have enough views or eyes on it, which is very discouraging.
JClay:But I found that even with that, I a make music anyway. Like, even if nobody's white, that's just that's just what I enjoy doing. That's just what fulfills me. So I I I learned a valuable lesson. Like, man, I wouldn't do anything differently if no one was watching because I've actually had that, and here I am still doing this.
JClay:But but I'm I'm grateful for all the those that that watch now.
Troy Washington:Yeah. So this is gonna be kinda contradictory but it's here's the deal. Nobody's ever watched you. And and the thing is there and and I and I say this because okay. Let me let me come back.
JClay:No. I know what you're saying.
Troy Washington:Go ahead. Yeah and I know you know what I'm saying. Somebody's always watching you but nobody's ever watching you, right? And the the the thing that you, you know, you you want to train yourself or recognize it within yourself is the fact that you're setting the stage, right? The thing that you might think people are watching you do, they're only looking for the end result anyway.
Troy Washington:That's kind, that's that's number one, right? And so, you know, if you think that no one's ever watching you, you can start to identify what you're actually doing. You can start to see what am I doing? Because we get so caught up in the habit of doing stuff, critiquing ourselves based off what we think other people are thinking when nobody's even paying attention to what's going on, right? And that's one of the reasons why we come to these halts or these stopping points or these points of reflection that are not always even necessary.
Troy Washington:Bill, I think that you should always be reflecting your way through things but when I say the point of reflection is is from a negative standpoint, trying to convince yourself why you shouldn't be moving forward or why you're not happy or why you're not fulfilled. And so if no one was watching you, nobody's ever watching you. What should you do differently now? To fulfill yourself so that way when people start watching this the example that you're trying to make or the point you're trying to prove is proven. But go ahead Jay.
JClay:I I love that you brought that up that no one is really watching because it's true. Like like you said, people even want the end result or what you can do for them. You know, like, it's it's all about your yourself. And I I'm just thinking about even people I follow on social media. There's a lot of people I follow and that I I love when their videos come across, but I'm not necessarily just looking for their video unless it's been, like, months and something popped in my head.
JClay:Like, man, I wonder what so and so was up to. Then I might look, but I'm not watching. And I I don't think anybody watches anybody that much. It's it's it's what's fulfilling to you. Like, on your timeline of of things, it comes up what resonates with you and what you enjoy, at that particular time.
JClay:But, yeah, it's true. Nobody's really watching anyone except for that the that you present yourself to be watched. And so yeah, we we shouldn't let that stop us. So I love that you brought that up.
Troy Washington:And and and to your point, bro, like, there is not enough time in the world for somebody to watch you that much.
JClay:Yeah. That it it it's it's just
Troy Washington:it's it it just imagine you sacrificing yourself to just pay attention to something. Like, nobody has that kind of time. But go ahead, Jay. My bad.
JClay:No. No. You good. So this one is like the the last one about you've been trained to one thing is that don't satisfy you. Also, you keep performing for a life you don't even wanna live.
JClay:Man, like, You know, when I used to be in the job force, that was me. And and and I worked I worked with people who love their jobs too, and I was I was amazed by that. Like, man, they they actually love this. And I I wasn't in in that part, but it would the fix was simple. Live the life you wanna live.
JClay:But I I was I was, crippled by fear, which isn't real anyway. But at the time, I thought it was very weird. Like, man, what about this? What what about this? But by when I instantly decided to live the life I wanna live, things started to change.
JClay:Things started to align, and I've made that promise to myself that that that's the one thing I will do. Sometimes I find ways that I'm not. I'm like, oh, snap. I'm not even doing what I want. Let me let me shift this here.
JClay:But it it it's I I would advise everyone to at least try it for yourself.
Troy Washington:So this is this is funny. And I'm a bring basketball into it, but I'm a bring my life into it as well. Keep performing you keep performing for a life you don't want to live. One of the biggest things in my life that I would now call a hindrance was my sensation and need to debate people. I used to always want like I had the debate ready for you.
Troy Washington:But the funny thing is I would think to myself when I was debating people a lot of the times that they were wrong and I was right. And I still had to make them agree with me. And I would start to think to myself a lot of times why am I doing this? Because I don't want to do it. I just don't want to do this much and I one day just stopped and again, that doesn't mean I I quit cold turkey because I still do it today but the point is, I recognize that this was not the life that I wanted to live.
Troy Washington:Number one, I recognized that it was intertwined in my life so heavenly that I could almost not control it because I would debate about anything and then, I I changed it as fast as I possibly could and again, there's always remnants of it still lingering within your life because even now, my kids can say something or my wife can say something and I will start and then I would just think to myself, that's not what I want to do. So, I just stopped. I literally would just quit and one of the things that is a big thing like, you know, I love basketball and you know, I will I would have debated anybody about LeBron James. It's just point blank period. Yeah.
Troy Washington:And one day, I heard Gil Gibbon Arena say, you cannot if you know something about somebody and somebody can make you debate it, then, you're not sure, right? And he said, there are and this was his point that he's making. He said, there are some true Michael Jordan fans out there and if you talk to them, all they'll tell you about is Michael Jordan. They'll talk to you about Michael Jordan. They don't have to bring anybody else into the equation.
Troy Washington:Then, there are people who are not sure and the only thing that they'll ever do is talk about other people other than Michael Jordan. Though they're saying they're caping for Michael Jordan. So what they'll say is LeBron is this. LeBron is this. LeBron is this or Kareem is this.
Troy Washington:Kareem is this. Kareem is this. But they never talk about Michael Jordan. And the reason why is because they're not sure. And so they're perform and again all they the the truth of the matter, all they want is the you to realize how great Michael Jordan is.
Troy Washington:But they're performing for a life that they don't even want. And so that was one of those recognizing factors to me in all things. Like, I can say how I feel and you can feel different and I don't have to debate you because that's not the life I want to live. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah, to to say it another way, let's say people wanna be healthier or no health. Instead of talking about health Health. They talk about all the diseases and how to stay away from them. Like, that's just gonna put you in the world of of more disease. Like
Troy Washington:Right.
JClay:Stick like speak on what you want. Your world that world expands. It brings you closer to it. But, also, to your point about, like, performing for a life people don't wanna live, anger. Have have you ever been around those people that, like, they just can't wait to be angry?
JClay:And it almost becomes comical because it's like, bro, it's it's not that serious. Like, you you just ready to just overreact because you're putting on a performance right now. You you love being angry, and so you act like it's the worst possible thing. Or there's some people who love being sad. They love the attention they get from from being felt sorry for because they may confuse it for love, and they're putting on this performance.
JClay:And it's like, you you don't have to react to every situation. This is why these situations are coming because you you step into that that joy that you don't even realize that you you light up when bad things happen because now you can be this this angry or sad or whatever person that you don't wanna live, and you know you wanna be happy. Everybody wants to be happy. And you know you're happy when you you you perform in it. You're like, man, I'm look look like, look at me.
JClay:I'm smiling right now. I'm putting on a my performance, but it's an authentic performance because this is the life that I want to live. Go ahead.
Troy Washington:Funny. I I love the fact that you brought up anger. And the reason why is because I have been around plenty people who have said try out like them. With the expectation of you can't like them too. And when you talk about it you keep performing for a life you don't even want to live.
Troy Washington:Because well whatever ramifications you feel like you might be responsible for. You know what I'm saying? It might happen to you. It been plenty of times when people told me they didn't like somebody and they expected me not to like them too. And even the thought of it made my stomach hurt.
Troy Washington:Even the thought of it made me sick because that's not what I want. Now associating with somebody is a whole different story. And again you can paint the picture however you want to. But I can never or never wanted to ever be mad at somebody because somebody else was mad. Because essentially that is a domino effect.
Troy Washington:That's the reason why you can't be angry for no reason or the anger you you're practicing a habit that's not even real to you. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and the I'm I'm a go a little deeper here on this this part of the topic, but it's similar. So, like, putting on a performance, acting. Like, know, you've heard we all heard the thing faith without action is dead. Faith without action.
JClay:Every time you act, you're acting. You're an actor. You're an actress. You're you're taking action. And so it's almost like, okay.
JClay:We we've heard that we're we're consciousness. Right? But what is consciousness? You can't you can't really see it. You can't really just say it's just this.
JClay:You can't put a face on it, but when you look at all the billions of faces of all the people across the world, that gives you a greater idea of what conscious is, the face of it, because we are all the face of it. We are all acting out these things. And I I say that to say that, like, this whole thing is a game. This whole thing is a play, and we get to pick our part. We get to play the role we wanna play.
JClay:And once we assume that role, the whole world and everyone around us would treat us according to that. And the the key is you could change roles anytime you want. You could you could flip flop. Like, in there are many people who flip flop so fast that they wondering why they can't get farther is because you're kind of living in in two different opposite worlds, but you don't even realize it. Like, you're saying, wanna be happy, but then you're reacting angrily to all these other things.
JClay:Or you say you want peace, and you're ready to fight for all of these things. I gotta fight for peace. I gotta fight for my right to like, no, man. If you want peace, just just chill, and you can have it. And so there there's a lot of flip flopping and performing on both sides where what you want, you never really seem to get to, you feel unfulfilled because you're not choosing a side.
JClay:You're not choosing a a role to really fulfill and enhance. And so, yeah, I just wanted to share that.
Troy Washington:No, I love it because the thing that came to my mind when you said it was, what are you acting like? And the question that you should or the the answer to that should be, you're acting like you. You're not acting like anyone else or what anyone else thinks or what you think anyone expects from you, you should be acting like you. If you're going to act because you're to act, right? You're you're going to you're you're you're leaving something behind, right?
Troy Washington:You're showing somebody away and the question that you always wanna ask yourself is, are you acting like you? Yeah. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah, man. And as we know, fulfillment isn't found in goals. It's found in alignment. And you can have a goal. I mean, you you can have a goal for alignment, but that that alignment is when you when you know, like, when you know you're living you, like you said, like, when you know that you're living for you, you're living according to you, to your blueprint of of what you enjoy, you really feel fulfilled, and goals are just, like, icing on the cake.
JClay:It doesn't matter. I'm here. I'm here right now. Like, I'm I'm where I want to be, and that's more fulfilling than any goal that I could barely see far away. E even before this, I was thinking about something like I I don't know if there's a difference between wants and desires, but, like, how I consider wants are something that yeah.
JClay:I like that. You know, if it happens, it happens, but I'm not I'm not gonna step into that. I'm not gonna really move forward, but desire is something like, yeah, I'm, I'm stepping into this. I'm going to act like that. I'm going to take action toward this.
JClay:This is the face that I'm going to put on because this is, this is my desire and I want to live in concert with my desire. And that comes that's that what that alignment is. And so, like, the rest of the goals, it's just it's just once. It's just like, yeah. I'll get that.
JClay:But the the desire, that's the the true alignment, so to speak.
Troy Washington:You know, I I'm glad that this is pointed out about the goals. And that doesn't mean that you can't find alignment when you're working towards your goals. What's what's funny is I think about what what this makes me think about is sometimes I could be working on something and again, I don't even know if this is something that I'm aligned to do. Maybe it's something that I'm just doing because I feel like I have to do it, right? And then, somebody could come around me and say, Troy, who played in this movie?
Troy Washington:Right? And I'll be like, okay, I'll look it up in a minute and then I'll start trying to do whatever it is I'm trying to do but that thing is ringing in my head. I wonder who that was in that movie. Like, and and and there's a feeling that I get I get swept away in that thought. And then eventually I say you know what?
Troy Washington:Nobody's asking me about it. But let me go ahead and look this up real quick. Because I have to know. And again, I'm not saying this is what alignment is but I'm showing you to me that's a description of what alignment is. Like, alignment led me to do what I really wanted to do in that moment And it didn't it didn't mean I had I couldn't get back to my goal at that time.
Troy Washington:But I I I made the shift because I knew that once I looked up who this was in this movie there was going to be a sense of satisfaction because now I can I feel happy that I know? I can tell whoever asked me and then I can go back to what I was doing refreshed, right? And so, I think that a lot of times that alignment is in our face but we push it to the side because we feel like this goal is more important than being aligned. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. It's it's like we we are to be kids. Things are gonna take our attention that that we enjoy, that we're we're enthusiastic about that that fills us with joy. I mean, I I know there are other things that are fighting for our attention that aren't that joyful that we sometimes let be be there. But like you said, like, you can do whatever you are doing refreshed now because you you've aligned with that with that desire.
JClay:And when you align with it, you just have so much more energy. Like, oh, yeah. I can do this right now. I can I can do this? Like, I like, right now, I'm in a space where I haven't been sleeping as much as I have, but it's just because enthusiastic ideas have just been coming around bedtime.
JClay:And it's just like, I'm not going to go to sleep doing it. I'm about to I'm about to fulfill this. I'm going to move here, work on this, do this. Like, it is is so much cool stuff, and I haven't been tired. Like, I have not like, I thought maybe before, like, I could go to bed, but then the desire comes, tiredness is gone.
JClay:So it's like nothing there's nothing greater than that. Like, you you can you can out desire your tiredness where you don't even know you're you're not even tired, like, like, genuinely. But go ahead.
Troy Washington:Bro, so funny enough, just so everybody didn't know. In the past month, in one month, I wrote four books. I wrote them. I published them, released them. They are all platforms.
Troy Washington:And the reason why I bring it up is because you want to talk about you staying up late and fulfillment will drag you if you allow it. Like, it it would just, it would just pull you in. And I remember at least three or four nights, bro, where everybody in my house had went to sleep early because of school, right? And I was going to have to go to school those next days as well. And I was like, okay, I'm a go to sleep at twelve.
Troy Washington:And then I would be so deep into the books that it'd be 02:00 in the morning and I'll be like, ah, I can't believe I stayed up this late. But the, this is the, this is what's crazy about it, right? And you talking about being tired and being refreshed. I will be so happy I got as far as I got with what I was doing, right? I would still get up in the morning.
Troy Washington:I would be at the school and then I will be enthused to work on it while I was at the school, Right? Because fulfillment is the energy. It is what's going to drive you to get things to where they need to be or what you may have anticipated them being. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and, of course, like, you want people to buy the book, use it, use the wisdom from the book. But at the time, that that alignment and fulfillment wasn't wasn't that yet. It might be right now, but but at the time, it was like, I just want to make it. I just want to get so cool.
JClay:I didn't realize I have this to share. I didn't realize that, man, this is And I understand the same with song making. It's almost like you're indebted to the song. Like, man, I gotta I gotta complete you in the best way possible. I don't even know if this is gonna go far.
JClay:I don't even know if I'm a let anybody else hear it, but I just know right now, like, this is the most important, amazing, awesome thing that I have to follow.
Troy Washington:Yeah. And this is what's funny about the last thing you said. I you're you're right. My intentions were set because I knew that I was going to be fulfilled by writing these books, right? And so much so that in the beginning when I wrote them, I literally told my wife, I was like, I'm not going to promote these books.
Troy Washington:I'm just doing them just because I just didn't, I I didn't even know I could do this. I want to do this much. So, again, I got caught up in a whirlwind and so when I finished book four and I actually put out a, you know, an ad or I guess a video for it. My wife said, I thought you said you wouldn't go promote these much. And then I thought to myself, I was like, well, I'm not promoting them.
Troy Washington:Am I? You know what I mean? It but again, it just goes to show that once I felt fulfilled, I was able to move on something else but I did it unconsciously just because I it was I allowed myself the person that I was acting like myself to lead. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Similar to that, so, like, like, in the back of my mind, I'm like, man, like, I I got this song Humble Yourself out now. I wonder what I can do to push it that's just different or something. I got away. I I got away that is almost like genius last night.
JClay:And, of course, there's a there's a price tag attached to it to what I wanna do, which I don't technically have right now. But the thing is, I know that I'm going to get it. Like, the the same source of that desire is the same source of how it would be completed. And the thing is, I I say this to say that you don't even have to worry about the plan or you be like the our divine nature, our our higher selves, God is working on all of that for us. All we have to do is follow the desire.
JClay:Follow the desire, and you're going to be bombarded with the with the ideas that'll help you move toward what you want. And you look up like, hon, this is the how. I didn't even see this way coming. I didn't even know this was possible. Just step into it and follow it, and it it'll it'll get you everything you ever wanted.
Troy Washington:And I want to I want to add to that, bro. We are great great. You are perfect. I'm talking to everybody in this in myself and you. And you know one of the things that you always say we are a perfect creation made by a perfect creator.
Troy Washington:So why don't you just step into your perfection? And the reason why I say that is because in me saying that we're perfect we are so unique and so complex and so amazing that everything in us is able to foster itself as ideas. And so we go through life all day, every day having all of these great ideas. Like, it just, we just always thinking of stuff and I and I don't know this 100% but I'm just saying that I feel like based off the people that are around me, everybody always got an idea because they always telling me ideas too, right? And the you want to talk about the easiest way to feel unfulfilled is to never act on your idea.
Troy Washington:Now, back to this point of acting, I said, who are you acting like? You should be acting like you. If your, if if it was your idea, yours, not anybody else's, it's you. And you never act on it, how could you ever feel fulfilled? And so we go through life having all of these ideas, all of
JClay:these thoughts, all of this,
Troy Washington:all the time. And when we have hindsight and we start thinking about the ideas that we had or have or we passed up on, that's when that sentiment of unfulfilled starts to become heavier and heavier and I and again, I think about that all the time. Even when it when even when it comes to me writing the books, right? And again, I had no intentions to promote them. I just want to do But once I got through and I felt fulfilled, the next thought to me, myself was, oh, you should do an ad for it, right?
Troy Washington:And then I have all of these great ideas for ads. And every day, every day that goes by that I don't do an ad, I feel it in my gut. I feel it in my gut, bro. And I said that to say this to everybody. I'm I'm I'm not telling you to do things that you don't want to do.
Troy Washington:I'm not saying start to create stuff that doesn't make sense to you. But if it came to you, then it's yours. And if you don't act on it, you're not acting like you. And that's where the unfulfillment starts to rear its ugly head. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah, what what what's cool about this? I I was talking to my wife about this like how, okay. You know how you when you go through something, you get to the other end, you're almost like, well, guy, why ain't you tell me this was was was in store? But the truth is, like, we wouldn't have got here if we knew. So for example, if if let's just say guy was like, Troy, I want you to write four books right now.
JClay:Do it. You're like,
Troy Washington:I can't write four books? Right. Come on. Like, like, no.
JClay:I ain't wrote one yet. But you that that wasn't your I I don't think when I talked to you, you didn't even tell me about four books. You told me about one book. And then when
Troy Washington:you finished it, you
JClay:was like, man, I I got another book in. I got two more books that's in the works right now. Like, like, was a whole different mentality than I gotta write four books. Like, you you know, if if if you knew the whole thing, you might not never get there because it's not meant for you to know right now.
Troy Washington:Real talk. Real talk. And and and we and we use that example all the time with this show. If somebody told us, I need y'all to do five seasons right now. Like, I need y'all to five seasons of Perfect Mode right now.
Troy Washington:The thought process would would break us down, right? Just like, you know, me thinking about trying to do four books at one time will break us down but the beautiful part of both stories is the fact that in those moments, me or you, it was both of us said, this is what's the top of our mind. Regardless of what what no matter what we need for it, let's just do it. Now, we five seasons of four books and six CDs and all of this different stuff because we were really willing to act on us. Now, of course, will we like more viewership?
Troy Washington:Will we like more listeners? Will we like more buys of books? Of course. Who who would want that? But that wasn't my purpose.
Troy Washington:And that wasn't what was going to fulfill me because I mean I I've heard plenty of stories with people with all the money in the world who are unhappy. Yeah. Right? And so, I I just, you know, I I just want to lay that out there to bring to the the again, my point back up is what's the top of your mind is what's gonna fulfill you. Get it out.
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And to that real quick, we don't gotta get into it. I just wanna put it up here. One of the one of the also reasons you feel unfulfilled is you've mistaken safety for purpose. It's like it's like you said, like, just getting out there and making that step, you might not wanna make it because you're like, I I don't know the whole story. I don't know how I'm a get all the way to the other side of this, but and you're trying to play it safe.
JClay:You're like, I'm just gonna stay here. I'm just gonna stay at at my original point. I'm not gonna leave my house or anything and you will feel unfulfilled every time if you do that.
Troy Washington:I I wanna add to that too just real quick. You've mistaken safety for purpose and not moving because of what you anticipate going to happen. This is what's funny about this that that whole thing. When we actually do have a thought and we say, you know what? I'm going to fulfill myself by acting this out.
Troy Washington:The thing that comes to most people's head is always the end result. Out top. And the question you want to ask yourself is how can I know the end result if I don't even know what tomorrow brings? How can I know the end result if I don't even know what the next few hours brings? And the reason why I say it that way is that even in celebratory thoughts, meaning, I know what the outcome is.
Troy Washington:I want to be a millionaire, right? You can have that same thought process for the next few minutes versus the next day or the next month or the next year and what you're doing is you're saying I want this end result but I'm going to put caution upfront too. I'm going to put that as day one, the next five minutes, the next hour, the next month and so, just remember, if you're going to is the word prognosticate? What's that? What's that?
Troy Washington:What's that mean? You know that? Right. Well, we're going to say prognosticate today, right? I mean, if you're going to do that, then everything needs to be in your favor.
Troy Washington:Because I promise you when the thought came to you, it was not unfavorable.
JClay:That's true. When you have when you have that thought of enthusiasm, you you feel it. You're like, yes. I could do that. And then I I I I've done that to myself where I I let, again, fear beat up an idea, and it's like, what about this?
JClay:What about but it it's something about taking that step. Just take it. Like, just you take nothing else from this show. Take that step, and then you're be given the step. Take it.
JClay:You then you're be given a Take it wherever you go. You can always run back if you want to, but you gotta you gotta at least go for it forward to even run back. But then you won't want to. But, yeah, go ahead.
Troy Washington:And real quick before we get out, prognosticate to foretell or prophecy a future event. Bam. Let's go. Man. So.
JClay:I ain't never heard that word. Thank you.
Troy Washington:So I'm gonna tell y'all, man. We grateful for y'all. We without y'all, man, we wouldn't be here. We we love doing this. This is what's the top of our mind.
Troy Washington:This is how I feel fulfilled. I hate when I miss the show, And I I'm just grateful for anybody that's willing to share if it helps and and and and continue to push this positivity and realizing that you're perfect. And Jay, you know you can go ahead and take us out, baby.
JClay:Yeah. Appreciate y'all again. We're here every Sunday, twelve noon central. If find this helpful, hit that share button, like, subscribe, tell people like, man, you gotta listen to perfect mode. We're on all platforms now, Spotify, Apple, all that good stuff.
JClay:And remember, you're a perfect creation made by a perfect creator, so you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect mode. Yeah. Yeah. If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect tomorrow.
JClay:Welcome to perfect tomorrow. Where there are no excuses, no world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, a spiritual teacher, with my cohost Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. Let's be real. So let's be perfect.
