S5E31: When Things Fall Apart - How to Rebuild Your Life with Grace | Sara Smiled

JClay:

If I reminded you that you are perfect, you argue me down or step into your perfection? To perfect tomorrow. To perfect tomorrow. Where there are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, a spiritual teacher, with my cohost Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor.

JClay:

Let's be real. So let's be perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

JClay:

Perfect.

Troy Washington:

Welcome to perfect mode. And first off, let me start by telling you that we love y'all. We're grateful for the opportunity to be anywhere sharing our thoughts, hopefully, and helping you realize that you are perfect. And the reason why I can say that unapologetically is because I know that you are one of one, numero uno, and you cannot be replicated, duplicated, and the only reason and I mean the only reason you think that you're not perfect is if you're looking at this person on the side of you and saying, I'm not them. But guess what?

Troy Washington:

You are you. And that's all you need. And of course it's yours truly. Troy Washington. Your friendly neighborhood and realtor.

Troy Washington:

And I have my boy Jay Clay, spiritual rapper and teacher. And I got a special guest today. We got a special guest today. Have you ever met somebody that just made you smile? I mean, so so much that they had to name themselves smile.

Troy Washington:

Shout out to our girl, Sarah Smile, a wife, a mother, a friend. Guess what? A community leader and this is the key part to it especially when it comes to our topic. When things fall apart, how to rebuild your life with grace. Shouts out to our girl, Sarah Smile.

Troy Washington:

Today is her eight year anniversary of being sober, and this is what we're talking about. She's helping us learn how to build ourselves back up. What up,

Sara Smiled:

Yeah. Yes. Thank you for letting me be here, allowing me to in your in you guys' space. I'm so grateful. It is it is that day for me.

Sara Smiled:

It's a it's a real special day because I I really got to look in the mirror. I really get to look in the mirror now and, like, smile at myself and love myself and realize that I got them I got behind my own back and I did my own stuff and, you know, and and we all have it. So I'm grateful to be here, you guys, and celebrate with you all. And you guys have a great little thing going. I love it.

Sara Smiled:

I love it. Great energy over here.

Troy Washington:

If if you just knew the amount of energy that you brought us today, you had me all riled up. I was like, man, I'm smiling hard, but, you know, nonetheless, we appreciate you appreciating us, but that makes us appreciate you more. And you just don't you know, I'm ready to get into this. But go ahead, Jay.

JClay:

I Well, first off, for those that celebrate Easter, happy Easter. And and, you know, hit that share button, hit that like, subscribe. We're gonna get to have a great show today talking about when things fall apart, how to rebuild your life with grace. And everybody knows why this is such a powerful topic. It's it's because we things are gonna fall apart depending on how we look at them, and it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world.

JClay:

Like, in some cases, it could be the best thing for you. And I I'm just ready to talk about it. So, yeah, Sarah, let let's start with you. What, like, what does this topic mean to you?

Sara Smiled:

Okay. So, yep. Eight years ago, I just I woke up sober for the first day, you know. I really didn't know what that was gonna look like for me. I remembered what it looked like here, but I remembered in all those times, I remembered that there was something greater.

Sara Smiled:

I was just numbing something up. That's all just numbing some things up. And so it would be time to feel those things and decide what I was going to do. And that's what I did. So you saying grace, like, that that part is is the key part of it, but I didn't find it until more recently.

Sara Smiled:

I was really hard on myself for a long time for not being where I should have been, you know, you you go and you get yourself into a you make a decision and you set the intention, you're going to do it. It doesn't mean that it's all gonna be peaches and rainbows, smooth sailing. You can decide who you want to be and you can see the vision and you can envision it in your life, but you're going to stumble a bunch of times and that's the grace part of it. And so I'm finding as it goes on, the less work I have to do to make myself do it and just recognizing that when I'm in the flow with what it's truly meant for me, we know what's truly meant for us. It comes in here.

Sara Smiled:

If you just, if we just for a moment, you know what I mean, just stop and listen to it, it's there. And when you listen to it, it takes you. And when you don't, it reminds you, and we all have it, and it's this great thing. So, you know, Grace finding that and through my through my journey, eight years, with just stumbled all the things and then put it all back together.

Troy Washington:

So No. No. Go ahead, Dave.

JClay:

Real quick because I I I know we're gonna jump right into it. You mentioned you were numbing some things that you needed to face. And you don't have to say what you had to face, but, like, how did it feel when you actually faced it? Was it as scary as you thought it would be? Was it, yeah.

Sara Smiled:

So it it was not as scary as, oh no, I had built that. I had built that up. Those are years of programming that we told ourselves stories of things now that we're uncovering and looking at. And we have to then look at us and say, you mean to tell me I was making this all up? I gave it so moment so much momentum in my life that I allowed it to and then when you realize that it's you reflecting back to you to you the things that you need to do, then you're done.

Sara Smiled:

It's like,

Sara Smiled:

oh, so everything's gonna be like that?

Sara Smiled:

I get to I get to respond and responsibility. I get to do all my things. You know? It's it's beautiful how it works out that way.

JClay:

Go ahead, Troy. No.

Troy Washington:

I I I love that. And, you know, just kinda give you my thinking on it. What what if anybody that watches this show knows that I like to compartmentalize things so that way I can hopefully help you to realize that you're stronger, you are more capable than you ever thought that you would be. And the the the funny part about when I think about when things fall apart, there's some stuff that we put a whole bunch of weight on, and then there's some things that we don't put a lot of weight on. And what I mean by that is that things fall apart every day.

Troy Washington:

And those some and a lot of those things that fall apart, we climb those mountains with ease. We don't even think twice about it. Oh, that's broke down. Let me just fix it. And then there are some things that come, and then we look up, and the mountain is too high.

Troy Washington:

And then we say, you know what? I can't climb that mountain because everything is falling apart. And it's just funny that you have the capability to do something, but you didn't also have the capability not to do it. And that's how I kinda look at a lot of things in my life to remind myself that, well, if I've already exhibited this behavior, why can't I move this here? And I think that's a lot of times where we get lost when it comes to any kind of rebuilding.

Troy Washington:

We start to forget how complex we are or how how capable be capable we are. And then even to your point, and I loved your point about reflection. We were capable to build a mountain. You were capable to build a mountain. I'm capable to build a mountain.

Troy Washington:

And I and I can make that mountain as high as I want to. And, again, nobody's helping me build this mountain. It's just literally me over time saying, you know what? I didn't even see that peak. Oh, there's another peak that I gotta go to.

Troy Washington:

Oh my god. It's another peak. And then before you know it, you got all these little heels that you're like, oh, I can just get over these. And then you got this one that you created that you can't even realize that you can start to take the top off a little by little even if you can't knock it all off. And again, I'm just I'm just expressing my own opinion of how we compartmentalize things and give some things power not the other.

Troy Washington:

And it's it's it's it's just amazing dichotomy of how we think. But go ahead, Jay. Yeah.

JClay:

And and and to that point, well, I I kinda wanna get clarification because you said you you love to compartmentalize. Is that to to help things? Is that, like, to or is that unconscious that that you don't mean to do it?

Troy Washington:

Well, it was it was in in the beginning because this is a just a way of my life. Right? In the beginning, it was how I purposely moved in order to remind myself that, hey. This is not hard. Again, you know, I had I had a friend who came to to me one day and told me she was like, well, I was talking to my significant other, and they told me that I'm a great starter, but I'm not a great executor.

Troy Washington:

And I said, well, I don't know if that's I mean, I understand the sentiment of what they're telling you. You have all of these great ideas that you haven't executed on. But let me compartmentalize this for you. Well, you've executed your day. You got up, and you had a plan of things that you're gonna do.

Troy Washington:

It might not have been this great idea, but you literally executed today. And so when I'm thinking about compartmentalizing, I'm letting you see things that you actually do already so that way you can translate them to the things that you can't. And that's how I operate. I am an executor. I just haven't executed here.

Sara Smiled:

Right. You know

Troy Washington:

what I mean? But that's what I mean.

Sara Smiled:

Right. If I can if I can say something and and this goes, you know, with with the sobriety that I'm cheering on here. Yeah. So there there was one guy yesterday that I spoke to, and he's early on in the recovery. And he was he was simply saying, like, try.

Sara Smiled:

He was gonna try to do things, you know, because he's early on, right? And I said, you can think of the energy that you put into doing all the things that you didn't want to be doing, like you were giving a whole lot of energy on just a spectrum that now you're going to shift and you don't have to look at it as so I have to go from this to this. You can just watch yourself slowly shift as you recognize what it is that you're, you know, you put less attention on here and then you focus on something else and it becomes a wheel. And then it's not so hard on us and it's allowing ourselves to have grace as we move with this wheel because the energy cannot be destroyed. We can only transfer it.

Sara Smiled:

In one, yeah, when we're, we're, we made, there's parts of our lives that we're not giving it as much as we should And we recognize that, but we're most of the time, time is being allotted somewhere else. That's and once we shift that energy in our thoughts, that flows beautifully.

Troy Washington:

I I

JClay:

love that you said that too about, like oh oh, go ahead,

Troy Washington:

I I love I love that

JClay:

you said that too about putting so much energy on either the things that you don't want or the the things that you aren't doing. Like, that's one of the most powerful things because a lot of times you can get caught in conversations where people are pretty playing who had it worse or what you don't like the most. Like, there's a genre of music called blues, like, which is usually about, like, with with down and out. And then I I know it's transformed from there, but we don't always realize that. And it's good music, but it's it's kinda designed in such a way, like, to keep you down because you're staying in that energy.

JClay:

And it's like, we wonder why we are in the hypnotic rhythm of what we don't want giving all this energy. But when when you reapply that energy to something new to the to what you do want, what you do like, what you do enjoy, it almost lifts you, like you were saying, to just carry you over to the things that you really wanna do.

Sara Smiled:

Right. Right.

Troy Washington:

And and I and I wanna add this too. You know? And and, again, this is just my perspective or the way that I see things, but the reality of it, again, for me when I when I compartmentalize it, at any given moment, you can feel like this is the moment when things have fell apart. You don't have to be you don't have to not be sober. You don't have to not have a million dollars.

Troy Washington:

You don't have to not it it's it's just there's always a point in your life where you look and say, this is not what I wanted it to be in this moment, like, right now. And so when you when you when you when you look at it like that, and then again, you look at all the other moments in your life when you've decided, well, you know what? Right now, I want a soda. And so I feel like getting soda is easy. So I just get up, get in my car, go to the store, and grab me a soda from the store.

Troy Washington:

Right? It's simple as and it I've programmed myself to think that that's easy. I've made myself think that that's easy because I have people that's around me that would want the same thing and be like, I just don't really feel like getting up and going right now. Or, man, I I have to get some gas or I'm a have and so when I when when I think about when things fall apart, there's a fork in the road for anybody at any given moment, and you have the option to look and say, like you were saying, Sarah, Sarah, I wanna say Sarah smile because it just makes me smile. But like you were saying that you can just decide now all the energy that I was gonna put going left, I can just put going right.

Troy Washington:

And let me just go right because this is just a better feel for me in this moment. But go ahead.

Sara Smiled:

Right now. And, you

Sara Smiled:

know, and and sometimes we see that turn where we're about to skirt and change our whole life, trajectory of our life. We we we saw it. We came around the bend a couple times. It's a roundabout. You can get off whenever you're ready.

Sara Smiled:

It doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to all completely crumble. The complete crumble is all what you are perceiving it to be. So at any moment when you just decide I'm not going to go to the store and get me a soda anymore, I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna change the pattern. I'm gonna rewrite whatever it is that's in my subconscious mind from the old things that I've been doing all this time.

Sara Smiled:

I'm just not going. No. I'm not. I'm gonna I'm gonna say no to something else so I could say yes to myself. And

JClay:

And and and again,

Troy Washington:

I I and I'm I'm gonna say this because this

JClay:

is just Troy

Troy Washington:

compartmentalizing. Every moment is a turning point in your life. Everybody. Every moment because every moment is leading to the next moment. I use soda jokingly just to kinda convey my my voice.

Troy Washington:

But the but the reality of it is, I go get that soda, and I know that I'm trying to limit the amount of sugar that I'm drinking, but I went and got it anyway. And so now I'm going down a pathway of, well, it's just another soda. It's just another soda. Right. It it it's the same thing with today, I'm deciding in any given moment, you know what?

Troy Washington:

I'm finna watch, I'm finna watch this TV show. And then when that show is over, I can decide whether I'm a watch another one or I'm not. And, again, there's other things to be done in this world. But in that moment, at that fork, I'm making a I'm making a choice for a turning point in my life. What is this next moment going to look like?

Troy Washington:

And when you when I look at it like that, that's what helps me to build it easily or more easily in a in a in a manner that I feel and I I'm I'm falling in love with. And I think that's what I would like to convey to people. But go ahead.

JClay:

Yeah. And on the other side of things too, like, we we sometimes I I know we mentioned about the weight of things. We put so much weight on a decision in this moment, like it's gonna be the decision for the rest of our lives. And it and it which also makes it that because we give it that much weight, so now we're scared about the rest of our lives. You know?

JClay:

We don't wanna look at it anymore because we made this meme so much when it's like, we should look on it look on it with grace, like, with ease, like, be easy on ourselves. I wanna share this with grace isn't weakness. It's power without force. And it's like what what both of you are saying is pretty much acceptance. Like, you accept where you are now.

JClay:

You're like, okay. This is where I'm at. I do have a choice. I can go this way or I can try something new. But but either way, I know that I'm here, and I'm gonna look at this with love and and and grace and and be mindful about it.

JClay:

And when we do that, it's not that we take the power out of the decision. It's like we empower it. Like, we we empower ourselves, I should say, so that we know that we're always on that right path toward what we truly desire.

Sara Smiled:

Right. And and every thought and and if we keep our if we can walk with that and in the love and in keeping those those choices and turns and things neutral to where we're not giving it any of it it may go gray and it may not and giving it just like the perfect homeostasis for the body. Like just if I remain neutral, then I'm not giving it any power to any direction and it's just going to guide itself, how how it should go, but I'm I'm always making the best decision for where I am now because the present is right now and that is the gift and we see it for what it is now because so many times we can see when we get to a certain pivotal point in our life and we really just take a step back and say, man, I've done riddling windmill in orchestrating this beautiful thing that I was just sitting here to I chose to come and I'm not sure. This is this thing we call life. So when we can look back in all of us, all of us, there's some things that maybe we could have shifted, but for the most part, it's such a beautiful journey.

Sara Smiled:

Such a beautiful journey. Allowing ourselves the grace to.

Troy Washington:

And and and and and, man, you you put the bow tie on that or the the the beautiful ribbon on that when you said it's the life that we it's it's our life. And, again, the the the most most beautiful part about the the word grace, the thing that I wanna point out is understand where the grace is coming from. And the reason why I want people to understand where the grace is coming from is because once you realize where the grace is coming from, you know that it can happen over and over again. You can give yourself grace.

JClay:

And and and and and and

Troy Washington:

and and this to the point that Jay Clay was making, like, you made a decision. Right? And it was not the right decision for yourself. And what we like to do is pour on. We like to add more weight to something that we already gave too much weight.

Troy Washington:

Like, you can change the amount of but you've given yourself that grace allows yourself to say, okay. You know what? This wasn't a mistake. This was me trying something that wasn't for me or something that I love. And that's that's a gracious thing to do.

Troy Washington:

That's the same thing that you do with other people. If if my son comes up and he does something that I don't want him to do and he says he's sorry, I easily say, okay. No. It's all good. Go ahead and do do do what you wanna do.

Troy Washington:

Yeah. And the part that we tend to not do for ourself is we take mistakes and shouts out to Jay Clay with the mistake. We take them so hard. We do not allow that grace in order for us to feel comfortable in saying, you know what? I can I can give myself grace a million times, but there's not any wrong because it's my life to your point, Sarah Smile?

Troy Washington:

It's my life, and it's a beautiful thing. All of the experiences matter. And if I'm giving myself the proper grace, then there's something to take from even things that I didn't feel like were for me. And so just remembering where that grace comes from is everything. Go ahead, Jay.

Troy Washington:

Yeah.

Sara Smiled:

Absolute absolutely.

JClay:

But, before the before we came on the show, Sarah and I were talking about our to do lists or just the the to do list in general and how it's more of a suggestion, because, you know, as as said here, like, we are in the now moment, and we are at a state of being. But what what what that made me kinda think about too was, like, why don't we have a to be list, or why don't we even have a being list? Because, you know, even even to be or to do is in the future. And sometimes too, to your point, Troy, like, we can get hard on ourselves when we don't follow our to do list. But to follow our to do list just all the way, we're ignoring ourselves in this moment.

JClay:

We're ignoring giving ourselves that grace to know, okay. Let me let me at least apply the mental energy to what I want to do first to make it easier to actually do this instead of just blindly going from one task to another. Like like, I I think Sarah said, like, that pause is important. That that pause does everything in the world if we allow ourselves to take that that quick pause.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah. So with with what you what you're saying there, so that's what I I do with my clients. That's the work that I do with my clients, like imagination. And it's really tapping into what you want it to be like so you don't have to run and execute and do extra things when you are when you know and you're tapped into your mind like a vision board of what it is that you wanna do. Spend less time being and more time I'm sorry.

Sara Smiled:

More time being and less time doing when you can articulate it in your mind. And sometimes people have a hard time tapping into that imagination and what they want that to see. But, if you know, practicing, it really helps and you really sit down and you visualize what it is that you want to see and then you put that on paper and the to do list becomes some type of great intentional work for yourself because I've envisioned it completely. I see what I want. I know what I want.

Sara Smiled:

And a lot of times we can ask people what they want, but a lot of times people will be able to tell you what they don't want before they can tell you what they do want. Well, I know I don't want that. Okay. But what would you like instead? How would you like it to see it?

Sara Smiled:

How do you want to feel? How will you feel about it when this thing can be transformed into something else? And then if we can start to see it vividly in our minds, the work is done. We put it on paper and we've navigated it beautifully. So to do list, absolutely.

Sara Smiled:

I hear you with that. It's to be list. What do I want to embody in my life? What do I wanna spend more energy with? What do I wanna love a little deeper?

Sara Smiled:

What do I wanna do? And then scratch off the other stuff. You don't have to sweep today.

Troy Washington:

And two, I I I just kinda wanna piggyback on that. Like, a million things go to my through my mind. And Sarah Smile, I love you because you just your energy is everything. And I hope that this also gets me to the point because the reality of it is, man, in my and this is just Troy. Y'all y'all y'all can rip me apart.

Troy Washington:

You know? But I just don't see how we're never not living in our purpose. Now, again, whether you're joyful about it or you've been but because again, to your point, Sarah Smile, life is this experience that we're able to go through and, like, like, feel. Like, and again, it doesn't mean ideally, I wanted to always feel good. Right?

Troy Washington:

But what I've learned even from the standpoint of me defining something that feels good, I've gone into situations where I've never felt it before, and I didn't know what it felt like. But none needless to say, we're always operating in our purpose. And so using you as the example, you were not sober eight years ago. Right? And No.

Troy Washington:

Right. Like, eight years ago, you were not sober. Right?

Sara Smiled:

Oh, yeah. Ten years ago, was on a bench with a park bench with my dog. Like Right.

Sara Smiled:

She you know, just to put into perspective.

Troy Washington:

Right. Right. Right. Now and and, again, that's that's very important perspective. Right?

Troy Washington:

And so depending on who you're talking to or who's witnessing your story like we are in this moment, I could easily say you had to be addicted in order to be here to make me smile today. Like, like, you had to go through

Sara Smiled:

the best thing that ever happened to me.

Troy Washington:

No. I'm I'm I'm just saying again. I'm I'm not and and I'm not saying this in the means to justify you going down a path that you didn't you didn't recognize the benefit of it later because when we're in things, we don't always know. But that's the reason why I'm saying that we're always in our purpose because ultimately, where you end up, we don't, we, we, we never know. And the reality of it is, even ten years ago, I don't think that if you go to ten years before that, you could have imagined yourself sitting on the porch with your dog.

Troy Washington:

And so it's just, it's, it's funny that not recognizing that we're always in our purpose also helps us not feel what we're supposed to feel in every moment in order to get what we're supposed to get out of it. And so, you know, that's just, again, my me thinking this through as we're talking about it, and that's the reason why grace is so important. It does not look like what I thought this was gonna look like. When I start smoking weed, I never think that I'm gonna be high one day and I cannot move. I just never think that until the day when I cannot move, and then I'm like, well, maybe this ain't what I wanted.

Troy Washington:

But the reality of it is, I can come back later and say, hey, guys. If you're gonna do this, know that this is a possibility. And my purpose could have been bringing this to somebody else so that way they can learn from it. Not only that, giving my voice the emotion and attention that it needs to convey it in a way that people can receive it. So Yes.

Troy Washington:

The grace does apply heavily. But go ahead.

JClay:

Yeah. This is a beautiful conversation because it is it is becoming a conversation of well, really, that is what grace is, like, just not being so hard on yourself, like, looking on yourself with love, looking on your actions with love no matter what they are. And earlier, Sarah has said something about not, about knowing how how a lot of people don't they know what they don't want instead of knowing what they want. And what I found with that is they really know what they're that they want. They're just kinda scared of it because they one, they they they put so much weight on it.

JClay:

They don't want it to be like everything else, and they they don't wanna have to feel like they have to go through something to get it, or they I don't know. We we believe in in in messing up. Like, there's no mess ups. You you are you are here to just be and explore and try stuff out. Like, that's that's that's the beauty of it.

JClay:

Like, you if you if you go to a restaurant and order something and it's nasty, you could order something else. It's that simple. It doesn't have to be a big deal or or anything. Like, we we make things greater than they are. We shouldn't and we we shouldn't be afraid to go after what we want just for the sake of we want it.

Sara Smiled:

Right.

Troy Washington:

Let me let me give you this real quick, bro. And this is the truth, at least the way that I'm envisioning it in my head right now. Right? Right now to this day, I've helped more people because of my mistakes than I have for the stuff that I've celebrated. Right now to this day, I've been able to help more people from mistakes that I've had than people from stuff that I've I've experienced that I've been exuberated by in the in the moments.

Troy Washington:

And so when you really think about that and if I'm thinking about a purpose, my own purpose, or how I feel about stuff, that's what I that's my in that's me being intentional. I wanna help everybody. Right? But more from what I've had mistakes on than anything. But go ahead.

Sara Smiled:

Oh, man. Oh, I feel I feel it. Like, that's I I recognize now every every mistake that I would proceed to whatever was like the greatest lesson because I've helped so many people who have just not known anybody that had that experience. They were looking for the connection between two people that could they could really feel had been through that and I didn't have to because I've also worked through needing to give them advice. If they asked for it, I was able to give them the most beautiful advice and they come for it.

Sara Smiled:

Like, you know, and sometimes being raw about the mistakes that we make is so beautiful, but people are wanting somebody to walk with on the path. So being very transparent, like I feel you on that, like I have, I too have, it has all been so beautiful. I I recognize each one along the way and I see, oh, there's the hiccup. Oh, there's the blessing. Oh, there's the hiccup.

Sara Smiled:

Sometimes, you know, we go back and we hit the bumper cars a few more times.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah. It's not.

Sara Smiled:

Know? It's it's just shining it up. Right? It's like the iron sharpens the iron, and it just makes it where we need to be.

JClay:

Yeah. That that That that's so powerful and so true. Like, even today. So, I I told y'all I played basketball before this. And before the game, like, someone was talking to me about he had back pain and knee pain.

JClay:

And I had told him, I was like, man, I I used to too in my, like, twenties, I thought was crazy. So I ended up, like, changing my walk, how I run, and everything. And we were talking about, like, how some people when they run, like, they they slam their foot on the floor or they might strike their heel, and it reverberates up and all these other things. And we're just talking about it, and I forgot about it. And so then after, you know, we played a couple games and after I had played my game and sat down, he ran up to me.

JClay:

He was like, I see what you're talking about. I never noticed you run like that before. It's you run light. You run easy, and it's it's just a a different way. And it it just made me think about what Troy said.

JClay:

Like, by your mistakes, you help more people because had I not got back pain and knee pain, I I wouldn't be able to help people. Like, oh, you could easily correct this. Like, this is a easy solution. And, yeah, it's it's yeah. It is a beautiful thing.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah, on an energetic level, I've learned through yoga practice that like gripping our toes on the earth really hard and, you know, it's slamming our feet on the ground. It's yes, it's, you know, bouncing back onto our bodies and all of that, but we're doing it for control. It's it's so it's all it leads back to fear where, you know, and when we become aware, oh, wait, I was fear. Wait, I'm just gonna glide a little more. I don't have to hit so hard.

Sara Smiled:

I don't have to hold so tight. I don't have to be so afraid that I'm gonna make a mistake because that's what grace is. That's why I'm that's that's why I'm doing all this so I can share with you. You know, you learn things on the journey, and that's we just walk all walking each other home.

Troy Washington:

And so and I and I I love that too. Like, even y'all's correlation to the running and the fear, like, it just sent a shock to my mind as I as I was listening to y'all. But but, again, you know, guess trying to frame this for our audience and, you know, helping them truly, you know, recognize what they're looking at when when we talk about things falling apart. The question that you wanna ask yourself is, is it really falling apart? Or is this something that I well, I know that it's not falling apart, but just a way for you to challenge yourself is, is this really falling apart?

Troy Washington:

Or is this something that I need to look at from a different perspective to understand how it can either help me right now or help someone else. And what is where where am I to grow from here? And that's just the kind of the way that I think about it when I'm, you know, framing this for our audience. But go ahead, Jay.

JClay:

Yeah. And and I love that. Like like, it's like falling apart is sometimes the first step to falling into place. Like, the the question you asked allows you to reframe it because you're you're looking at it like, okay. Okay.

JClay:

This obviously didn't go according to plan, so to speak, but what does that mean? Is that a bad thing? Is there an opportunity here? Is there is there a way to learn something from this so that I can do it again? Or is this a pivot point like, oh, this is an even better way that you would have never seen had it not fallen apart.

JClay:

Like and and it's and and, again, it goes back to what what Sarah said. It's it's that it's that fear that you need to control everything and that you gotta this has to

Troy Washington:

be under my control.

JClay:

It has to happen exactly how I think it's gonna happen, or it's the worst thing ever. And it's like, is it though? Like, we the world's still moving. We're still breathing. We can still smile if we choose to, and it it's like it's never as bad as it seems.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah. No. I Is this happening to if

Sara Smiled:

it's happening to me or is it happening for me? And when you when you start why why does this keep happening to me? If you just change that question, so why does this keep what is this here to show me? What is this here to teach me? You you open up an a whole new perspective to, okay.

Sara Smiled:

It's here to show me something. It's not happening to me. It's happening for me. That eases it up a bit.

Troy Washington:

No. Real talk. And and I I I like the phraseology that Jay Clay used just a second ago because I I the only reason I like this is because I'm a substitute teacher, Sarah Smiles. And every time I say smile, they just make me smile. Right?

Troy Washington:

But I'm also a real estate broker. So I'm just in a bunch of different areas all the time. But the reason why I bring up substitute is because I've heard kids on a daily basis say, this is the worst thing ever or this is the worst day ever. And something that Jay Clay just said just now, he said, this is the worst day thing or worst day ever or is it? And so, like, when I think about y'all y'all talking about being patient or quiet in the moment and listening to yourself, wherever is there a problem for you to say or is it?

Troy Washington:

You know, in order to give yourself some grace to really have the perspective. And I wanna read what Mike just wrote. Shouts out to Mike Castillo. Did I say that right?

Sara Smiled:

I'm sorry if

Troy Washington:

I messed it up, Mike. Shouts out to Mike, but he says, you can hit rock bottom and bounce back even better. Rebound hits different. You'll get the rebound with a graceful mindset. And I agree because, ultimately, shout out to my girl, Sarah Smiles.

Troy Washington:

She stated earlier, it's it's a choice. You get to make that choice. And you're right. When you make the choice to change what you're doing, you're it's always gonna be better in a sense. You know what saying?

Troy Washington:

But go ahead, Jay. I know. I see you I see you bubbling over there, baby.

JClay:

I I did. I I just I just made a correlation that I'd never made thanks to Mike. Like, okay. Again, this is the basketball analogy. Sometimes people get caught up in missed shots, how many shots they missed that they can't they don't feel confident enough to shoot.

JClay:

But as Mike pointed out, like, that bounce back, that rebound is is even better. And, like, if you by tracking your rebounds, you can just change your whole perspective. Like, okay. I I missed this, but I rebounded. I got one rebound a day.

JClay:

I got two rebounds this next day. I got three this next day. And, like, it it just brings you so much joy because you're a great rebounder. So it's okay to miss those shots.

Troy Washington:

Yeah. It's

Sara Smiled:

it's all what we're giving the energy to. We can what what what is the what is the direction in which I'm giving my energy to? Something that is not serving me or something that is. And, you know, you just refocus. And at any moment, wait, that made me feel not so great.

Sara Smiled:

Like, refocus. That made just moving along, you know, and and you always have the opportunity to choose again. Always have the opportunity to choose again. At every single moment, I could just choose to say a different word than I was you know, it's like at any moment and we're changing it immediately. Like, there's so much going on around us, all this energy around us.

Sara Smiled:

The moment that we shift our thoughts and what we're going to do, It changes the whole direction.

Troy Washington:

So this is my question for you, Sarah Smile. Eight years ago, you woke up one day and you said, you know what? I'm just gonna take a different path. Right? And the only reason I'm bringing this up again is because the you know, from the audience standpoint, if I'm listening to us, I could imagine myself saying, well, it's easier said than done.

Troy Washington:

Y'all can say all of this. And where is the practical advice on how do I just change my mind? How does this happen? What does this look like? And I'll say this first that it's not gonna look the same for everybody.

Troy Washington:

But No. It's always clues in what somebody goes through to help you to see where your trigger's gonna be. So I'm I'm asking you eight years ago well, I guess it'd be eight years ago in a day. Right? Mhmm.

Troy Washington:

You you you decided tomorrow is gonna be different. And what was the process thinking that through in that moment?

Sara Smiled:

Well, it had it it had started prior to that. I I knew, you know, there was it was it had spiraled all the way to not nothing, basically. And, that guy, Mike Castillo, shout out to Mike Castillo. So I met Mike Castillo, he had walked the journey sometime before me. So this was all a process.

Sara Smiled:

I I just when we get on the right path and we start to plan it out, it just, that's how it worked itself for me. I just so happened to meet a guy who was just so happened to be sober, who just so happened to, you know, we have a cute little story of how many times we, you know, the whole thing, right? And then seeing somebody else doing it, I also had somebody else doing it who was sharing their day to day experience. I found the right people. I had already began to plan what I wanted to do because I was at my rock bottom.

Sara Smiled:

Like I was at my rock bottom. So I knew that it was and it the way it all aligned and then I had gone I had been to many check-in one days, check-in the check out the there was a there was years of the things, you know, the and then I made so I'm when I made the plan and I saw that I was making a plan, I had somebody with me, I had somebody else. I if they can if they can do it, we can do it too.

Sara Smiled:

And

Sara Smiled:

so I then I checked myself into. So there was some spiritual work being done. Didn't necessarily know it was the spiritual work, but I was I didn't call it that at the time, but it's some deep soul searching and I've, you know, like I was turned away at, I think it was like I had made it through a detox, just a side note, like I had made it through a detox. I couldn't make it through a detox. And I went with my bag to one place and they sent me away because they weren't able to take me that day.

Sara Smiled:

And I remember going back and thinking, okay, so if I really want this, this would be the fork in the road. What I'm going to do, I'm going call another number when I get home. Oh, that's what I'm going do because I know that I have momentum to go this way, but I made a choice and I have somebody cheering me on and I got a couple people in my corner and okay, I can see and I'm ready to do that and that's what I'm going to do and so I slept there, woke up on 04:20, you know?

JClay:

Well, go ahead. I I I got a follow-up question, but go ahead, Troy.

Troy Washington:

Alright. I I okay. Okay. I'll go ahead and say this. Alright.

Troy Washington:

So, again, the reason why I asked you that is because, again, like I said, if I'm sitting back looking at the show, I'm thinking, okay. It's easier said than done. Right? Is it yeah. Y'all can talk this, but, you know, but this is the thing that I wanted to pull from this, and you literally hit the nail on the head.

Troy Washington:

It's two things specifically. Number one, you said that there was a buildup. And in that buildup, what was happening was you were witnessing where you wanted your life to be. And the reason why I specifically say it that way is because we are all subject to a substance or thing of our liking, all of us. It doesn't have to necessarily be a drug or anything like that.

Troy Washington:

It's all a drug. It's all a drug. You know what mean?

Sara Smiled:

And that's the point that I

Sara Smiled:

wanna make. Knows how you truly feel is

JClay:

Right.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah.

Troy Washington:

And so the key to me, and this is for all of us, is you decided, okay. Well, I cannot make this I cannot jump off of the mountain aisle today. I can't. I'm gonna have to scale. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to scale my way down.

Troy Washington:

And the reality of it is using substance as a vehicle, it could be anything. We all get to a fork in a row when we've been looking at other people or other things, and we're saying, I want as a as an example, I wanna have a million dollars today. Right? Today. I want it today.

Troy Washington:

And the reality of it is I'm at the fork in the road where I feel like that's impossible. You were at a fork in the road where you felt like being sober was impossible. But you also said, well, if I go over here, I can make $10. That's how I look at, oh, I can make $10 over here. But the reason why I wanna make $10 is not only because I think it's cool.

Troy Washington:

I see that people over here making $10, and they look happy. And right now, the choice that I made, not to say that it's a bad choice, it's just not the choice that's making me happy right now.

Sara Smiled:

Right now. It's Right now.

Troy Washington:

Right now. And, again, I don't I don't talk down on anybody anywhere they're in their journey because I understand that you might not recognize it as what you want, but this is what you want right now. So you might look at it as as being rock bottom, but that mug was everything. Because my uncle shout out to my uncle Jerome. I always used to tell him all the time.

Troy Washington:

Like, when when when I was talking to my friends and my family, and I would tell him, like, I think he wants to go to jail. The reason why I think he wants to go to jail because he keeps selling drugs. And the example of everybody selling drugs, they all go to jail. Everybody that I've ever seen. Right?

Troy Washington:

So when he ends up in jail, I don't look at him as a bad thing. I just say, well, this is where you want to go. I don't treat him any different. I go and visit him. I send him money.

Troy Washington:

But I just feel like I'm not gonna feel bad because you you decided this is the route that I'm taking, and that's cool. He also decided why he was in jail that, you know what? Troy looked like he had a little fun out there. So you know what? I don't wanna do I wanna do what he's doing so that way I can have fun out there.

Troy Washington:

And so, again, shouts out to you and to our audience to understand that it doesn't matter what it looks like. No. No. You and you said it earlier, Serious Miles. We all kinda know what we're wanting to be our purpose.

Troy Washington:

And so when you start to recognize that and you start to say, you know what? Well, my purpose doesn't look like these things that I'm doing. Let me just make this shift, and it's not gonna be a clear jump off of off the off the mountain. I don't I'm I'm afraid. And I I shouldn't be afraid, but I am.

Troy Washington:

I I don't feel like I got help. I do got help, but I don't feel like I do. I don't know the way to go. I I don't feel like I do, but I do. Right?

Troy Washington:

And so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna slowly climb up that mountain. I'm a slowly dollar by dollar get to that million because I know that's where I wanna be, and those steps will follow. But go ahead, Jay.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah.

JClay:

Yeah. Well, one well, one thing I wanted to point out too was similar to what what Troy was saying, it sounded like, and correct me if I'm wrong. It sounded like you made a decision long before that day one. Like, you you you made that decision, but you might not have knew where how to start, where to go. And then the the divine universe, as great as it is, since you may be somebody that you like you said, you had an interaction, it might not it might have seemed like a chance interaction.

JClay:

It might not have led to an instant change, but you had an interaction. And then you had going. You you had an awareness of what you want now, and you're you're starting to turn the tide. You're trying you're starting to shift that momentum more and more toward that what you want, and then you have other interactions. You have other things.

JClay:

You see somebody who like, oh, they had a similar path as me, and look at that.

Troy Washington:

Right. Right.

JClay:

Okay. I this can be and they wanna help me too. Like, this is crazy. Like, I don't this is this is amazing. And and so it's a and I said it's because, you know, a lot of times, like Troy pointed out, people want instant change.

JClay:

And in some ways, the change is instant, but it just might not look like how you expect it to look. But but by making the decision

Sara Smiled:

Right.

JClay:

Is the most important thing.

Sara Smiled:

The the instant is the light The the the only instant part of it is when the light switch goes off to start the journey. That's the instant part. The other parts are the running one lap one day and then running another lap another. There's so many levels that you know, I don't know if people watch video games around it, play video games around here, but I watch my children play video games, and I look at my life exactly like what I'm seeing on the video game. Like, I I wasn't hard on myself when I died in Super Nintendo.

Sara Smiled:

I mean Yeah.

Troy Washington:

No. Yeah.

Sara Smiled:

Alright. Player one, start again. And you get you get the the sword, the you grow. You you grow your your tools. Your tools.

Sara Smiled:

Your tools, your pockets, you grow all your things. And then when it's time to you level up because but you kept showing up. Like so when we look at it like that, when we look at life, like, as just like a a video game with a lot of love, ourselves and other

Sara Smiled:

people. Ourselves.

Troy Washington:

And and I'll say this too just to kinda piggyback on what Jay Clay said because I know what Jay Clay meant when he said the universe will send you. The reality of it is the universe has already given you everything that you need. And and and Sarah Smiley, you said it as well. Like, when that light switch goes off, it's not like stuff just magically appears. It's literally like you opened your eyes to see what's already there for you.

Troy Washington:

And Yeah. Using video game as the perfect example. And I love that you use the video game and using Mario Brothers. Right? You playing Mario Brothers, and you're going through the levels, and you're going stage by stage, but the reality of it is there are shortcuts to get everywhere that you wanna go.

Troy Washington:

But you don't know that there's shortcuts because you don't even believe that there could be a shortcut to do it. But the minute you realize that there's a shortcut to skip to every to the end, and it's it's it was been it's there the whole time. Right? The minute you realize that it was there, then you would take it every single time. And so, again, it's just one of those things like, everything is always there.

Troy Washington:

You're just not looking at it. Red car syndrome. I want a red car, and then next thing you know, you see red cars everywhere.

Sara Smiled:

Yep.

Troy Washington:

They always been out here. You just weren't looking at those. So I love both of y'all's points of view on that. It's it's what's up.

JClay:

So so, because I I know we're getting close. We had about twelve minutes left. If we had to make, like, maybe a step one and a step two just, you know, that that that each of y'all can share of, like, what to do when things have the appearance like they're falling apart, just so you won't fall apart with them with your perception of it. Like, it's do do you have, like, maybe a step one or step two that someone could could do or embody, so to speak?

Sara Smiled:

If, you know, so, I ask myself usually if it's true. That's that's I find me asking myself, is that true? A lot. Because when I'm in that moment of like, so I kind of look at the situation a little like, is this what is this truth right here? And when I look at it that way, I can say like, I'm giving this a lot of energy that I shouldn't.

Sara Smiled:

So maybe I can do something else. But and and a lot of times things happen where you you hear things from somewhere, you hear like, it's all coming at us all the time and when we ask ourselves like is that even true what I'm thinking about right now? And if it's not without a % then let it go and think a different thought. Yeah, that would be, that's my and I have, you know, you know, there there's so much going on around in the world around us. Like, you sometimes you have to ask yourself that at at the store when you're checking out at with somebody and you catch yourself in a we all have the choice to choose again.

Sara Smiled:

Right? It's like allowing ourselves something new. And so in that moment, we just ask ourselves, is that a feeling that I have right now? Is that is that true? Okay.

Sara Smiled:

It's not.

Troy Washington:

Yeah. I I would I would piggyback on what you said. So number one, that is a way of my life all the time. But for a lot of people that who are visual learners like me or they have to kinda feel things or see things, I would challenge you to write it down. And the reason why I say it this way is because sometimes we've made things be true that are not true.

Troy Washington:

Right? And, like, you ask yourself if it's true, and you will believe that it's true because you've you've literally sold into yourself over and over again that something is true. And so what I would do is I would write it down, and then I will weight it. I would say, is this weighted meat like, light, medium, or heavy? Right?

Troy Washington:

And then if it's something that's weighted heavy, I will really give it the time of day. I would now, I'm going into the question that you're saying, is this true? How how does this really make me feel? Is this where I wanna be? Is this really of me?

Troy Washington:

And I'm gonna look at it. I'm gonna give it the proper attention to after I give it the attention I need, then I can reassess it. Well, is this really as heavy as I thought it was? Right. It can move down and scale.

Troy Washington:

But I think just really giving, things an opportunity to dispel the truth that you may have given it is important. Go ahead, Jay.

Sara Smiled:

Got you.

JClay:

Got you. And and it sounds like too, it it you need a level of awareness to get outside of your thoughts. And that the only way I know how to do that is through practice.

Troy Washington:

Mhmm.

JClay:

Because I I I remember a time when I wasn't aware like that, and I remember a time where I was. And it's and so, yeah, I I I say practice that too at every moment, like, just really getting out outside of your thoughts and and contemplating it. You know? Just take a second to yourself. Like, meditate or just step aside and close your eyes or just have some alone time where you're not listening to anything, watching anything.

JClay:

You're just being and just kinda sort out those thoughts.

Troy Washington:

And and I I wanna say this too Okay. Real quick. And I want you to come in right after me, Sarah, but Sarah smiled. Let me go. But, being aware of your thoughts is really a thing.

Troy Washington:

And the reason why I say that is because I know how I feel all the time being aware of what I'm thinking, the way that I'm thinking about it, and it's and when I say it's really a thing, I I mean it from my standpoint at least. I don't wanna get to say about it, but it's it's a challenge. It's a you you you find yourself in a room that you're not used to being in, And you find yourself processing things that you're not used to processing. And it's not always gonna feel like roses and strawberries. Like, you you gonna really have to find yourself in the things that you're processing.

Troy Washington:

And that, again, is gonna be a testament of how we just think of things freely and not necessarily temper what's real to us. Like, it it's gonna show you something, and it it's gonna feel plenty. But go ahead, Sarah Smile.

Sara Smiled:

Yeah. So so to somebody who is just even figuring out that we are we can how how far our thoughts are, like, take notice and set an intention right now as you're watching this saying, you know, I'm gonna be more aware of my thoughts. Just say that aloud to yourself. Go look in the mirror maybe. Something.

Sara Smiled:

But write it even write it down. I am now more aware of my thoughts. Now you have the I am with it. Now you're pretty powerful. So I'm aware of my thoughts and and become and let it become a practice and then start writing down, like, what are my five dominant thoughts?

Sara Smiled:

Like, I think about that stuff a lot. And every time I think about that,

Sara Smiled:

some type of way about that.

Sara Smiled:

How important is that in my life right now to be thinking about that? Because because most of the time, it's not even our thoughts that's been programmed from our mama or daddy, the cousin down the street, our job, our this, and it's not even ours. It's a file cabinet full of stuff. It's not even ours. So when we can get down to say, what am I actually thinking about with no music on as I'm driving?

Troy Washington:

Man, you just And

Sara Smiled:

then once you once you crack open that door, it's like a light right here, the one we just spoke about earlier. It's like a light right here, and you become more you know, this is my this is my daily practice thoughts. This is my my stuff.

JClay:

You just blew my mind because as aware of my thoughts that I am, I never I don't even know what my five most dominant thoughts are. And now I now I wanna find out, like Man.

Troy Washington:

And to that,

JClay:

real quick, because I know we got five minutes left. As you can see what Sarah just did, she is a coach, and I I would want you to talk more about that, real quick. So if anybody wants to get in touch with you and work with you, all of that.

Sara Smiled:

Yes. So so my favorite jam has always been to call people out on their stuff. Wherever my signs align, that that so I But I do it in a very sweet loving way sometimes, you know. It's a different approach to what therapies would look like, right? You're to tell me your stuff and I'm going to point out where you say you can't and where you say you'll try and where you say, and I'm going just point that out to you and then we have this great loving relationship because you grow and I get to watch you grow.

Sara Smiled:

And so that's what I do. I'm a, I have a local place. I'm in Louisiana and I do some medicine work and help with a different approach to what standard recovery looks like because it doesn't work for everybody. And so there are so many vast ways that we can find ourselves closer to who we are, who we're truly meant to be. Know, and so yeah, that's what I do.

Sara Smiled:

I have a website. I'm an herbalist. I really, enjoy working with people that I know what they're going through because I put the herbs and I cater to that type thing so we can really get deep and set intentions with that work. And, yeah, Wednesdays on Facebook until I grow like you guys, when I grow like you guys because that's on the to do list that we talked about, but it's really just something that's coming in my near future. But, oh, like you guys, that's what I was going to say, but we do a midweek magic on Wednesdays and you can join us there and we talk, my co host Alexis and I talk all all this stuff.

Sara Smiled:

We keep it real raw and organic, and, you know, I I like to love on some community and some women, so keep that coming in.

Troy Washington:

Love it. Yo. I just gotta bring it back one more time. Your what are your five most dominant thoughts? That is cray that is that is that's crazy.

Troy Washington:

I mean, that's that's tight what I mean by that if you don't know what I mean by that, but that's that's crazy. Yep. When you talk about shutting down the show, a guest coming through, making you smile, and hitting the point that needs to be made Yeah. That was the point of the show. Like, I I really and truly mean that because if you need an answer for for when things fall apart, how to rebuild your life with grace, man, what are your five most dominant thoughts?

Troy Washington:

And you will get to being gracious with it. Man, she did that. Shouts out to you, Smile.

Sara Smiled:

I love I love you. I love you guys. I love you guys. That was great energy here.

Troy Washington:

Oh, and one thing I want to tell you too. You are always growing, Sarah Smile.

Sara Smiled:

Oh, yeah. I'm talking

Troy Washington:

about you you talk about when you grow, like no. You're always growing.

Sara Smiled:

You're always growing. Thank thank you thank you for thank you for keeping me out, honey.

Troy Washington:

You you are where we are because we're all here right now, and that's the only thing that matters. Go ahead, Jay.

JClay:

So yeah. So if y'all found this helpful at all, you know, hit that share, like button, subscribe, all that good stuff. We're here every Sunday at twelve noon. I appreciate our special guest, Sarah. I appreciate Troy.

JClay:

Appreciate everybody that walked with us today and that's gonna see the replay and all this good stuff. Yeah. Troy?

Troy Washington:

You know what it is, man. You know, we love y'all. We're grateful for y'all and realize that y'all are perfect. Without y'all, we wouldn't be here. We'd definitely be doing something, but we definitely wouldn't be here, and we're just gracious and gracious and grateful for y'all allowing us to share our perfection with y'all because, man, you help us realize our perfection too.

Troy Washington:

And, Jay, you can take us

JClay:

out, baby. Any final words, Sarah, before we No.

Sara Smiled:

I I appreciate you guys. I'm grateful to be here. It's the best day ever. Christ is risen in all of us. It's it's all of us.

Sara Smiled:

I love you guys.

JClay:

Love you too. Remember, you're you're a perfect creation made by a perfect creator, so you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect mode. Yeah. I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? To perfect world.

JClay:

To perfect world. But there are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, a spiritual teacher, with my cohost Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. Let's be real. So let's be perfect.

JClay:

Be perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

JClay:

Perfect.

Creators and Guests

JClay
Host
JClay
JClay's music ignites a transformative experience, fostering spiritual growth, mindfulness, and a positive mindset through powerful and uplifting rap.
Sara Smiled
Guest
Sara Smiled
A wife, mother, sister, friend, community leader.... From addiction to medicine woman
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