S5E24: How to Turn Any Crisis Into a Spiritual Awakening
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Troy Washington:And I have my boy, Jay Clay, spiritual rapper and teacher. And we better jump on here and talk about how to turn any crisis into a spiritual awakening, how to turn any crisis. You know, the crazy thing is, bro, I see it done all the time. I don't think people even know how they do it. I I I maybe have witnessed it my within myself.
Troy Washington:Don't know how I did it, but let's get into it. What up, Jay?
JClay:Yeah. Let's talk about it. Happy day. Happy Sunday on this perfect day. Being in the perfect place.
JClay:Shout out to all my perfect people. I wanna say real quick. We're supposed to have a special guest, Blaze on here, but, you know, he he lost his voice. He got a fever. We wish him a speedy recovery.
JClay:We will get him back on here at a later date. But, yeah, I I definitely wanna talk about this because I've gone through this myself, and it's a very powerful thing, and it and it's life changing. Like, it's it's, you know, turn your life around no matter what you're going through, no matter where you're at. Yeah. And, oh, and, also, you know, if you if you if you oh, go ahead.
JClay:Go ahead, Troy.
Troy Washington:No. I I and I want to say before we get into it, the funniest thing and I guess it's not necessarily funny, but something that I've said, tongue in cheek, I guess, is how they say that term. Or I kind of just randomly say it throughout time. And I'm talking about the history of time and things like, I don't wanna wait till I get get guys' ultimatum before I start doing things. And, it this is what makes me think of it.
Troy Washington:Like, because a lot of times when I've seen people go through, crisis and and and the crisis is subjective too. Just FYI. Some crisis could be having a the fluid being at the house with a cold. You know, you don't know how to handle that much. So, just, you know, allowing those things to catapult you into a realm that you wanna be in, but you're not you could my bad.
Troy Washington:Go ahead, Jay. Yeah.
JClay:No. You're good. I just wanna say too, before we get started, we should have shared, comment, like, subscribe to others that you know that this will help. Click the link, you know, to subscribe on our pie I mean, on the, all all the streaming platforms, which this will go live on every Tuesday. This is the live is Sunday, but the replay is on Tuesday on all the streaming platforms.
JClay:But, yeah, let's get into it. Let's let's start off. Let's, let let's let's define some terms first. I I know you talked about crisis at first. Like like, crisis well, yeah, how would you define crisis?
Troy Washington:To me, crisis is honestly just any, hiccup unexpected without, an immediate resolution. You know what I mean? And what I mean by that is, I mean, I think that there are things that pop up all the time, but because we're such, you know, adaptable people, we're able to maneuver and and kinda get out of it. But there are sometimes things come up, I. E, the flu, and there is no solution that's on the surface that you can get to.
Troy Washington:And so what'll happen is to me, it kinda sends you into a whirlwind. And and, again, I'm not trying to pick on our guest because I want our guest to come on. But I can imagine waking up with a fever and, you know, not and your voice being gone. And your entire day is predicated on having your voice and not having a fever, like, everything. And so, you know, just being able to bounce back from that.
Troy Washington:So to me, it's just kind of an, an, an unexpected, circumstance with no solution, no immediate solution.
JClay:And I will add to that. I I would say it it's it's a circumstance with no immediate solution that you feel affects you negatively. Because, you know, there there are a lot of immediate circumstances, and it's like, oh, can't do nothing about that. You know? But, like, if if you feel that it is gonna truly affect your day to day or just, like, your well-being is at stake at stake, you're like, oh, man.
JClay:I gotta, this is crisis. We we gotta get out of this. What can we do? I gotta and so it's like you you get into crisis management mode, which is something different. So, like, so now let's get into awakening and spiritual awakening because they're they're they're almost the same, but it's slightly different.
JClay:How would you define an awakening or a and even a spiritual awakening at at that?
Troy Washington:And I know that you say that they're, they are different, and I can see the differences in them, but the baseline of them to me are the same. And what I mean is it's it's a new awareness. It it again, when when I'm when I'm when I talk about this, this, flu I I I keep saying flu. That's my apologies. I don't wanna give you nothing you don't have.
Troy Washington:When I talk about this fever and I talk about your voice being gone, you there's that initial, that initial, you know, crisis management moment that you go through. But then I think the awakening is the awareness of, let me really identify what this is, how this really impacts me versus me going over the, the deep end. Let's see what this is what how this serves me. And I think in awakening, it it just allows you to, get outside of the box and look at it from a bird's eye view to see what the purpose of something is. Go ahead, Doug.
JClay:And and just real quick, I I just looked it up and it had a just a cool simple definition for awakening that I love. An act of waking from sleep. And and many and many times, like, when you're in a crisis mode, you can't really handle it from being in that mode. Like, you almost have to awake to a new level to realize, like you said, like, to re to to reassess it and and see what it it truly is, you can't be in that mindset. Like, you have to elevate in some way.
JClay:And I know that's not always easy, and that's that's what we're gonna talk about in this, like, how to do that. And then on another level of the I would say the spiritual awakening is even waking from the dream that you could ever be in a crisis. So it's like you you bypass that altogether that when things happen, you don't attach an immediate meaning to it. You recognize that it just is what it is and that as as all things come and fade, this will too. Yeah.
JClay:Go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. And and I I wanna add to that too and say that, a big part of it is, I mean, again, if you if you just, probe and ask people or even if you just if you're if you awaken yourself to see how life is really going on on a daily basis, you know, some people might say that we walk around in a dream state all the time. You know, it's kinda similar to what the matrix was. Like, we are so accustomed and habitual in our nature that life becomes, it becomes a trend. And, like, literally, we're just we're we're not a what a what wake.
Troy Washington:Right? So that's the reason why when you wake up with a fever, your normal day has completely changed and that you have no choice but to say, I wanna get back you were I ain't gonna say you have no choice but to get that, but you have you essentially act in a in a state of, I wanna get back to my normal state no matter what, even if it's a state of trends, not necessarily opening your blinders to understand. Let me look at this from a different standpoint, but I think that we actually do walk around in a dream state. But go ahead, Jake.
JClay:Yeah. And and and before we get into the how to, I I do wanna talk about, like, even why this might be necessary or why you would want to turn the crisis into a spiritual awakening. And and it is it's because, like you said, like, we we do things so automatic. We do things so in a trance like state that we're asleep to it all. And we we don't even know how we're contributing to the circum that contributing to the circumstances that are brought about to even make us believe that we're in a crisis.
JClay:And, again, like, the the reason you wanna get outside of that is because you can you can start to pinpoint like, oh, that's how I brought this into my awareness. This is how how I brought this into my experience, and I no longer want to have this. I don't have I don't wanna choose this any longer. I want to be able to just switch my attention and so switch my livelihood, so, switch my experience. And you do have the power to do that, and it's a lot easier than, some would have you believe it to be.
JClay:And and and that's that's one thing I wanna get into. So, so, yeah, let let let's start. Do do you have any experiences you would say of of you were kinda under that and you you jumped out of it. Like, you you were in crisis mode. You're like, oh, shoot.
JClay:Let's I gotta get out.
Troy Washington:And I think that's where I like to talk about the awakening. I know that's not where we're going with it. Yeah. But, again, to, you know, me trying to it's gonna take me a second to think back about a time when I wasn't aware that I went into crisis mode immediately when I got I went into it. Because in most cases now, I I do again, even if I'm not awake or aware, I try to be.
Troy Washington:And I I know that's the point that we wanna get to, but in most cases in my life matter of fact, let me let me tell you like this. I literally just said a while ago how through observation and also me doing it myself, there have been plenty times in my life where I said to myself, it was just a it was like a, a light bulb that said, don't wait until God put you in a situation where you gotta do something. Right? And just to kinda give you an example, before I I told you there was a there was a time in my life where I had to go to the hospital. I started having panic attacks.
Troy Washington:My blood pressure wouldn't come down. It was all of these different things that was going on with my body, and I didn't understand it. And I was in crisis management mode, and I didn't know how to I didn't know how to to get out of I didn't understand how to get out of it. Mhmm. But what I ended up doing was I made a declaration to myself, and that declaration was what did I deem to be good.
Troy Washington:This and this is kinda how I broke myself from it. And how does this serve me? Like, if I deem this to be good, what was this trying to show me? And so once I came to the conclusion on both of those things, I set forth on a plan, and I got myself back to the place that I wanted to. But not only that, understanding what I went through, this is where the awakening part happens, like, why my blood pressure was the way it was, why I had to, you know, work out the way that I had to.
Troy Washington:It set me up for future success in the life that I want to live.
JClay:Yeah. Yeah. To that, just just just to, I I guess, answer that as well, as far as what what's something that I I woke from and I was able to handle it. Let me preface it by saying, I believe that I'm a smart person. Like, I believe that I can always figure things out.
JClay:If I can't, like, if my brain is not thinking, I know something's wrong. I know, like, I'm in crisis mode and I'm I'm tripping. So I remember, if my parents watching, you know, for forgive me for this.
Troy Washington:Shut up, mama.
JClay:One time, a a long time ago when I was I hadn't quite started taking driver's ed yet, and and
Troy Washington:I was about to.
JClay:And my sister was like, hey. You wanna pull in the driveway? And so I started pulling in the driveway, and I don't know what happened, but I I mixed up the gas and the brake pedal. And so when I tried to mash on the brakes, I mashed on the gas. And so my my sister just started screaming, and I can't I can't think like that.
JClay:You know, like, if if there's a lot of it's like so I had to just slow down. Even though I'm I'm running it I'm driving into the house, but this is happening in slow motion. I had to slow down, wake up, get myself together, and I was just like, okay. Since I mashed this and it goes, that means this other one has to stop. Right.
Troy Washington:And then I and
JClay:I was able to stop before any damage was done or we crashed into the house. And then
Troy Washington:I got out the car,
JClay:and my sister, you know, drove it in, and we just fixed the grass so they wouldn't know that, that something was wrong. But but it but it's the simple stuff like that. Like like, knowing yourself, being tuned in to yourself enough to know you gotta wake up. But go ahead.
Troy Washington:And and and now and and and that's actually the point that I was making about how hard it is for me to find a location in my brain of an instant because just like in your circumstances, you were able to you you like, that was instantaneous. Like, you didn't have time to process, like, I'm not awake. Like, you woke up instantly. Right? And, again, there was something that happened in your life that made you decide that in crisis moment, I'm going to wait, be awoke versus panic.
Troy Washington:Right? Yeah. And it and and it's funny. This and you're talking about from a young age. I have similar stories from a young age, bro.
Troy Washington:Like, Quinn, shout out to my boy, Quinn. So shout out to because Quinn actually did run into my house. Just FYI. We pulled up in my driveway one day, and his brakes went out in the driveway. And it went like we we couldn't have been flying up into the driveway because, you know, we drove come to the driveway.
Troy Washington:But it it went out, so we were rolling. And in my mind, when he said he couldn't stop, I didn't necessarily go into crisis mode. I went into awake mode. And in my mind, I was thinking, you need to hit the emergency brake, bro. You need to hit the emergency brake.
Troy Washington:Right? But he could not function right, and he just ran right into my into my daddy house. Right? And knocked the bricks loose on the garage and everything. Right?
Troy Washington:And so now, again, mind you, this is somebody that's in crisis mode versus not at the same time. But even much even so much so that when we got out of the vehicle, he was still in crisis mode because it's like, what are we gonna do? But because I'm processing it such a different way, it didn't even and, again, it bothered me, but it didn't bother me to that extent because it was more of this is how this is gonna be handled. I just already know. You know what I mean?
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Right. So so one of the one of the key things, in this to to help wake up is you can only you can only control what you can control. And what what you can't it just is what it is. You know? Somebody might be upset.
JClay:That's for them to handle. You know what I mean? It is you didn't intentionally do anything wrong, and you're gonna do what you need to do to make things right. But just know that one, you can only control what you can control. And it's important that you can control yourself.
JClay:You can control your reaction to things. You can control your thoughts in those moments by practicing, you know, your normal state. Like you said, I gotta get back to my normal state. And my for me, my normal state is I have complete control over my thoughts. Like, I can think my way into situations.
JClay:I can see the logic and the patterns in things, but only when I'm clear. When I'm not, it's like that that's put it like this. There's something called lucid dreaming where you can either control your dream or you can just, you know, astral project and travel and things of that nature. And there's clues that people use to let them know that they're dreaming, which is they might look at their phone and it's not any real legible language or something like that. And in this so called reality, that's my trigger.
JClay:It's like, wait. I can't I can't think straight. Like, I can't I can't access my logic. Something's wrong. Wake up.
JClay:And then it and then it's like and and it's cool because everything does happen in slow motion. Like, you can do this so fast that you can start the the whole awakening process from whatever you're in. And I I know we we haven't touched on the spiritual awakening yet. We're just talking about regular awakening. But yeah.
Troy Washington:No. No. I mean, again, just me thinking about, so first of all, let me go back. Trying to control things that you can't control.
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And and breaking yourself free from that mindset is very, very again, it's two pieces here. Being aware of what's really going on, what control you have of it over it. Like, if you have any control. And then if you don't have any control over, how to break yourself from realizing that you don't have control over that. Because, again, there's always this this, active active or effort piece that drives your crisis.
Troy Washington:Yeah. Because you're touching on things that you really cannot touch on. Again, if I am yelling at Quentin, why he's gonna run into my house, He probably doesn't run into the garage. He runs into the the the, you know, the bedroom because he's pennies. Right?
Troy Washington:And and, again, I have no I have no, control over the steering wheel. I have no control over the the brake or anything. Only thing I can control is myself. And so, again, by me, being aware of that, I did not exacerbate the situation. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And it's funny too. Right. Because, I mean, like you said, like, yelling would have made it way worse because it it's hard to add to the noise. Like, when I play basketballs, there's this teammate I sometimes have. Like, let's say a ball gets knocked loose and I'm I'm about to go for it.
JClay:His voice would just switch to high pitch mode and he'll be like, get the ball. Get the ball. Like, he it it but it sounds like he's in a panic. So I would just stop because I'm like, shoot. Does he hurt?
JClay:Like, I don't wanna contribute to him hurt.
Troy Washington:And he
JClay:like, why you get the ball? I'm like, because you yelling like a like a mad person. Like like, I'm thinking something like you hurt or something. And and it's funny. And I had to kinda even with that because he does it so often that I gotta kinda remember, but it still catches me off guard because to me, it's like if if somebody's yelling like that, like they're in in pain and turmoil, I actually slow down because it's like, okay.
JClay:Let me let me assess what's going on, where the danger is coming from or, you know, because you don't wanna you don't wanna add to it and you wanna relieve it if possible. So yeah. So I I would say, yeah, being centered being centered within yourself helps a lot too. Go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. No. Again, I I like it. And the reason why okay. So the you said being centered, I like to think of it.
Troy Washington:And, again, you might not even feel like in a circumstance you even have time to stop and just listen or in or or just kinda intake what's going on. But I I like to think of it like just, allowing whatever it is to be. So that way you can just kinda just take it in. Because a lot of this is, like, just take in what you see right now. Take in what you're witnessing.
Troy Washington:Take in what you're hearing. And and and don't base it off what you thought in the past in a sense. See what this really means to you in this moment. You're right. You know what I'm saying?
Troy Washington:Because, again, it it's funny that like, you're right. If I if I was on the court and I heard somebody's, voice change, I'm gonna stop too. I I would. The reason why because I'm gonna think that, number one, there's so many processes that's going on in my head. This is not a situation where there's a high voice.
Troy Washington:This is not a sit like, it's so much stuff that I'm I'm I'm gonna process in that moment, and it's gonna it's gonna cause me to pause. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. No. No. And that that's that's key too. Like, you know, the the outliers are the things that cause you to usually, they it cause people to move in a panic, and that's the farthest thing you you don't wanna panic.
JClay:You wanna con so much control yourself that you are always calm of thought. But in in some instances, that does say practice because, you know, sometimes you might be bombarded with thoughts all the time that you can't even you don't even know that peaceful self to even know that you can get to a quiet place. And and, again, I can't say where it came from, but I just I've always noticed that I can't accomplish anything in a panic. Like, if I'm if I'm in a panic or I'm in a distraught state, nothing happens. It's just it just seems worse than it actually is when it might not even be that worse.
JClay:But but but also I would say too, if you're beginning to take control of your your thoughts in this way, don't beat yourself up when, you know, when you still succumb to it because in many instances now you're aware of it. I I still remember being a kid and, like, I'm I'm crying, but I'm mad that I'm crying. I'm like, like, I'm I'm trying to stop, but I'm aware. Like, man, why am I even crying right now? This is dumb.
JClay:But it is but it was the process it was the process that you kinda have to go to to resume control, to to even make that awakening to get yourself out of a crisis state.
Troy Washington:But but to your point, though, bro, like, when you're in a crisis, crisis is the top out of mind. Again, that's the reason why you have to reframe what you're thinking. So so so what I'm what I mean by saying that is that there's nothing else that can come in, take over the place of the crisis if you put it at the top of your mind. Bro, there have been plenty times back in the day when I was actually working a real job and me and Sharda used to argue all the time, where I would get into an argument with her on the way to work on the way to work.
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And when I pull up to work because I cannot remove what's in my mind out of my mind. Like, I can't I can't even go to work because I know that if I go into work, I won't be able to function on the, or actually process the work that's in front of me because what's on the top of mine will not go away. And the reason again for part of that is not taking a second to allow whatever it is to be, to understand it, to to digest it and not be, to to have an because, again, we we say crisis is not having an instant resolution in a sense to something. But you got an instant resolution. You it's not no longer a crisis.
Troy Washington:It's like I can solve it. Right? And so a lot of times and, again, just using the the the situation with me and Chardonnay, a part of the solution was me allowing myself to not be upset. Right? But because I couldn't control what she was saying or the way she felt or whatever was going on at that time, I stayed in crisis mode, which put that at the top of my mind and never allowed for it to provide a solution that I needed in order for me to free myself.
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Zack.
JClay:Yeah. And, also, like, so a a lot of times people don't realize is we talk a lot about the hypnotic rhythm, about the the habitual nature of things. And so a a lot of people are in the habit of not controlling this, of letting this build up. So it becomes a part of who they are. And it's always and and it could be become hard to separate it from yourself when you believe you are a part of this crisis.
JClay:Like, this is this is yours to own. Like and and it's crazy because you think, like, who would wanna own a crisis? But if you're if you're if you've been in that state for so long, you can't distinguish the two. And it's it's it's a very tough thing to do. And and so, like, which at the same time, I'm not always hard on I'm not hard on others when I see that they're in that state.
JClay:I'm I'm very, like, lenient. Like, it's okay. You know? It's it's you you this is this is not above you. This is not even of you.
JClay:It's just, you know, you you you'll shake this free. But but go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. I I think that's a a good question that we should ask ourselves. Who would wanna own a crisis? Who would wanna own sadness? Who would wanna own displeasure?
Troy Washington:Who would wanna own any of these? Because the reality of what you're saying is these are states that we choose to be in. Yeah. Right? Even even from the example that I'm I'm telling you and, again, I'm so happy that this is so many years ago.
Troy Washington:You know what I'm saying? But even from the example that I'm telling you of me sitting in traffic, being in an argument with my wife, getting to work, and knowing that the simplest thing that I could have done was, alright, babe. Love you. I hope you have a good day. Talk to you later.
Troy Washington:And just even in me saying that now, you you can feel it in your gut, there's joy.
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And that's, me choosing to, not hold on to the anger, to not hold on to the crisis, to not hold on. And it's just funny. The question that I think that is important in this is, first of all, identifying what this issue is and ask yourself, who wants to own that? I like that, Jay. That was what's up.
JClay:Yeah. Right. But but but, again, the the key to that is you can only ask yourself that question when you're in a slightly awakened state. Like
Troy Washington:Right. Being being aware. Knowing.
JClay:Right. Because because when you when you're stuck in that crisis state, it's, again, it's tough to separate yourself from it. Like, because even in it, like, people are people are at least aware enough that they don't want to be in it, but they don't always have the keys to to break themselves free. They don't always know how because it you know, usually being in that state would lead to yelling or lashing out or or something of that nature. So it's it's it's almost like you have to reprogram yourself to notice these signs to be able to to break free from it.
JClay:Oh, go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. No. No. And and and I agree with you because I do know, again, that's to the point that I'm making that Christ when Christ is at the top of your mind, there's nothing that's going to go that you can't see anything. You have those blinders on.
Troy Washington:But I also think that there's always something in your subconscious mind that's telling again, I I just wanna use arguments as a vehicle to explain what I'm what I'm saying. Right? But in a marriage, you will argue about the stupidest things. Like, it it just it it just be dumb. It's too hot in here.
Troy Washington:Like, it well, what you mean it's too hot in here? It just it just it it could be the craziest thing. But there's and and, again, I know why it's hard for things to move beyond the crisis management that's at the top of your mind. But along the way, you that's why I love what you said. You have to stop and ask yourself the truth.
Troy Washington:And, again, that's about being aware. Do I really wanna argue about the temperature? Do I really wanna be mad about the temperature right now? Again, I know this is a big argument. It might have spun into a bunch of different stuff, but the question is, me being aware, me stopping for a second to be in the state that I'm in and recognize it, what are we talking about here?
Troy Washington:Did this start from me talking about it being too hot? Do I really wanna own being upset about being hot? Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. So one of the things to do that that it has helped and this is this is easy for me now. Like, this is super easy for me now. It wasn't always this easy before, but, like, you know, we we talk about meditation, but it is it's not so much the meditation that does it. It's the letting go of all things.
JClay:So it's like when you first close your eyes, you start at the top of your head and you start to relax everything. And you just go down, you relax your eyebrows, your eyes, your nose, your ears, your your lip. You be like, oh, snap. I didn't know my lip was tensed. Like, you just like, these things you didn't know because you never took the time out to just relax everything.
JClay:And by the time you get to your your feet, it's like you're you're almost like, wow, this is this is different. And when you sit in that relaxed state, you just feel whatever was on you, like, that pressure just leave. And that that doesn't mean that the situation is handled, but it just means that you can see it clearly for what it is. You can see that, okay. Can I contribute to the solution, or is the solution out of my hands?
JClay:Do I just have to accept this? But then you're also in a space where you can accept it. And so, like like, that's one that's one key thing. Like, that's why I like what you said about going to work. You can't go into work like this.
JClay:You can't. You you shouldn't even interact with another. You shouldn't make any decisions from that state. You should do what you need to do to to trigger that letting go process to free yourself to to kinda get back into the mind frame where, okay, I can make a better decision.
Troy Washington:Yeah. No. I I agree with you 100% with that. And and, again, I think that a part of that is and, again, I I also know that what I'm saying is not necessarily the easiest thing to do when you don't have practice in doing it, but you have to be able to sit in silence in any given moment. You gotta be able to look like, again, it's so easy to look at everything else because that's where our eyes are pointing at, but you gotta take a second in any given situation to look at yourself, allow yourself to be.
Troy Washington:And the crazy thing about it is I'm saying that it's difficult, but it's not like it that this is a this is a habitual function that we have every day anyway. Because any anything that's not in crisis mode, we're placing ourselves where we belong in that in every given moment. Like, it's just it's just a natural behavior, but go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and, again, it it's only difficult when you first start. Like it like like, I I I can't even remember I'm I'm grateful for this, but I can't remember a time when it was difficult because I I've been so much in this practice. But just knowing that you can get to a point where you're not bombarded with thoughts, is is worth it to even aspire to. And and and, again, like, you you might not get it the first few times you try to quiet your mind, but it's important to at least try.
JClay:It's important to to believe that, to say, I'm a get there one day. It might not be today. It might be a year from now, two years from now. I'm gonna get there one day. And and briefly, I'll I'll try to I'll try to make this short, but I wanna talk about, like, my spiritual awakening, like, how I kinda came to this this space.
JClay:And the the the one of the short versions, I y'all hear me talk about A Course in Miracles all the time like that. That book helped because it broke down some of this, like, some of the patterns and how I was adding to it. So for example, if something happened that I didn't necessarily agree with, I was quick to maybe blame the other in that situation or, you know, say it's them like, man, they inconsiderate blah blah blah. But at the same time, I'm being inconsiderate of what they think is con is considerate.
Troy Washington:Right.
JClay:And so, like, I'm I'm I'm I'm mirroring the same behaviors that I'm giving to them. And so I and so which is a clue that there's no separation in which you experience. Meaning, like, that which you those properties that you give to someone else is because you have them to give, and it's it's it's never them. Like and so so one of the first lessons I think this is in the four agreements too. It's like, don't take anything personal.
JClay:It's it's never it it it's never about you, someone else's actions. It's all them. Like, they might not even be hearing you right now because they're hearing the voices that are replaying in their head. They're hearing all the noise that they carry from time to time. And so it it it would start to be like a a realization of this.
JClay:Like, that book helped me to to realize that. It helped me to realize how much, of my past I am not. Like, we we carry these scars. You know? We carry this turmoil.
JClay:We we carry like like you said, like, who wants to carry this around? But we do. But not only do we carry it around, we believe in it so much that we wear it proudly. Like, I wish somebody would. I'm a unleash this fury on them.
JClay:I'm a do like, I'm a I'm a show them they don't know who they messing with, because you're you're you're feeding that. You're feeding that anger. You're feeding that angst. You're you're feeding all of that fury. And when you realize that it was never real to begin with, it was just all a story.
JClay:It was just all your imagination. It was all a dream that you need to awake from is, it's tough. Like especially when you see, when you see it for what it is, it's the hardest thing because you you almost wanna be scared because you don't know who you are now. It's like, okay, shoot. I've been this.
JClay:I've been this this this angry person or I've been this, conceited person. What whatever. This this this narcissist. What whatever thing you wanna say that you maybe gave to someone else, you're you're seeing it and it's like, okay. I know I should let this go, but who am I now if I do let it go?
Troy Washington:There you go.
JClay:And and and so it it becomes a scary thing.
Troy Washington:And it's scary, though.
JClay:It is. And and and that's just the beginning. But once you once you get through it, it's it's like you realize all the beauty that is around you. Even even when others around you are screaming, crying wolf or or saying, you know, the the sky is falling. You don't see it because you see the peace, you see the love, you see the joy.
JClay:And so I say all this to to say, like, be willing to to go through it because you you have to kinda go through it to because you went through it to get to where you are now. So you have to actually go back through it to get back to your natural state of peace, love, and joy.
Troy Washington:You know, funny is and I'm a make this short too, is that I still remember my and I think I told you about this before. Like, when I was sitting I I literally was standing in the bathroom, and I don't know how old I was at this time now. Yeah. And I was literally trying and and I don't know why I was thinking this, but I remember what happened, though. I was trying to understand what I think.
Troy Washington:You know? I was like, what what do you think? Right? I was like, you know, what do you think? And then I don't know what I was trying to think about what I thought about.
Troy Washington:You know? And, again, that that's how you know how how big and how, grand this is because it's be it's more than you know all the time. Right? You know how I say that? And so in the process of me looking in the mirror, looking at myself, and trying to figure out what I think, I realized that I didn't think anything.
Troy Washington:I realized in that moment that I didn't know anything. And I started thinking, like, why do I know that like, I was tripping. I I again, I'll never forget that moment because, you know, you're right. When you talk and, again, I don't know how fast it's supposed to happen, but when you talk start talking about the judgments that you have given everybody. In that moment, when I was thinking about what I know and where it came from and then everything that I gave out, that might hurt me more than that.
Troy Washington:It it like, that might hurt me, though. And I was I was scared, and I was lost. And I was just like, dang. I do not know anything. And and, but the but the beautiful part of it is it's like Legos, honestly.
Troy Washington:You know what I'm saying? Like, now you get to pick which Lego you want. Okay. I like red. And then from that point forward, it was just kinda it's it it even to this day, it's just building.
Troy Washington:Building exactly what you want. But I I I definitely remember that, babe. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:You you said two things I wanna expound on. So the the first is about not knowing anything. And, like like, people have to humble themselves to really realize that they know nothing. Because because, again, like, what you mean you don't know nothing? Well, if you really knew, would you choose to be in this angry state?
JClay:Would you choose to be in this crisis mode? Would you choose to see things or or or live sadly? Like so people are like, no. It's because I know that I am just like, well, then it's not serving you. Why why know that then if if it's not bringing you what you want?
JClay:And I had to come to that realization as well. Like, shoot. I don't I don't know anything. Everything I thought I knew is this is not helping me in a in a least bit. And and so it's almost a surrendering to the higher power or asking, like, you know, how should I move?
JClay:You know, God or or universe or or the definite infinite energy. What should be my next course of action? And even by stepping back and asking that question, there's a letting go. You're letting go of the pressures of having to figure everything out and giving it up to the higher power. So it's like you're giving up, but you're not giving up because you're still in the game, and you can be got it.
JClay:So and then the second thing is when you said it's like like you get to pick your Lego. And what's cool about that is it's like you're it's like you become the kid that you always wanted to be, but you have the permission of of the adult. Like like, you know, when you're a kid, you know what you want. You know, can nobody tell you, you know, I want this. I want that.
JClay:But there are other things that are saying you can't have this. You can't do this right now. But now you are in a position of an adult, but you have to clear all that clutter of the programming of the of the false doctrine that you were fed so that you can get back to your knowing, your personal knowing. Not not my knowing, not Troy's knowing, your personal knowing because you've always known from the beginning what will serve you best.
Troy Washington:No. And and the other piece of that that I can say that, again, scary process. You know? I I won't act like I I'm a grown person and just feeling like I gotta figure out life again. But the beautiful part about that mug is when you start to pick your Legos, you could actually see other people picking their Legos too.
Troy Washington:And and along that journey, that fear that starts to fade away. And and it's a lot of different reasons why that happens. Number one, you know, you're not doing it alone. Number two, those judgments become apparent again. Right?
Troy Washington:You start to see how you place things, and you even get to further remove stuff as you're building what you're building because you still have a piece of that apart you you're habitual. You've been doing the same thing. You've been knowing everything your whole life, and it's not a easy wipe away. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. So I I I wanna tell you about something interesting. What what made me think of it is when you said, like, you can see everybody picking their leg Legos, but you can also see people who who are not, like, who are
Troy Washington:read that. Who are
JClay:in these complexes. So today, after we won one of our games of basketball, like, there was kind of a a argument which was almost a fight between two people, like, one of my teammates and somebody that was on the other team. And the the teammate has said something interesting. He's like, man, I don't be bothering nobody, man. I'm I'm I'm probably the fastest and strongest person out here, but I don't even do all that.
JClay:I don't even, you know, do that. And then the the other guy was like, well, what you wanna do, man? I ain't scared of nobody here. I ain't and and and then both of them hearing that, I can hear that complex. And so one, like, the guy on my team, he feels he's greater than the role he's playing, but he's not stepping into his greatness for whatever reason for a a sense of of I don't know.
JClay:But but, like, that's but he wants to be compensated for it. He wants to be appreciated for not going all out or certain things. And and it's but again, that's in his own mind because on our team, man, go all out. Dude, play your game. And then the other guy has a complex of, like, he thinks maybe he he sees him people might see him as weak.
JClay:And he wants to prove his strength by showing how strong he is, but that's not how you prove your strength. But, again, when you're in that that certain mode, when you're used to feeding yourself thoughts from in crisis mode, you start thinking ill thoughts, thoughts that don't make sense, that don't make logical sense from a logical standpoint. And so it it's important to eat like, have these conversations with yourself. Listen to the logic that your mind tries to create on its own without tapping into your calmness or your peace or your love. Like like, listen from a love mind and listen from a fear mind, and the fear mind, it makes no sense.
Troy Washington:So and this is the question that you gotta ask yourself. Why are you not trusting yourself when you're challenging or questioning yourself? And, again, it's just it's just a funny thought process to me. The reason why I say that is because this is the way that we live our life anyway. Yeah.
Troy Washington:Every decision that we make, there's a question. And we answer the question, and then we proceed with whatever that action is. And we can do that mug unencumbered with not without any doubt, any, you know, reservation because we we're trusting the process. Like, even now, I know that I have to get up to the gym early so that way I can do perfect mode. But there's no question about how I'm gonna do it.
Troy Washington:I know I need to get up early. I know I need to get my shirt. I know I need to hit that clay. I just get in the car and I go and I get here and I do it. Right?
Troy Washington:And because and, again, even though it sounds so simple, there's still a question in everything that I'm doing. And I'm answering it, and I'm trusting myself to do it. But it's just whenever we come up against things that are fresh and new, we have an answer, but we're not trusting the answer that we're giving ourselves when we're professionals at doing that. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Right. But but it's because you have two answers, like, when you answer that question. Like, again, like, when if you're in the if you're tapped into the fear based mind, like, you're like, nah. That's stupid. Like, what do they know?
JClay:I know better. I know that don't lead to nothing. It doesn't lead to anything. It's It's gonna lead to more turmoil. You're not gonna have me looking stupid by centering myself and breathing deeply.
JClay:Like like like, that's going through people's minds. Go go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. No. I I I the crazy thing is I 100% agree because in saying it, I hear it in my head. But the question that you gotta ask yourself in that is, like, there's there's two answers all the time. You know what I'm saying?
Troy Washington:That's what I'm saying. We we live this. When I decide that I'm gonna drive up here, there's also a thought that I might have a wreck on the way or I might run out of gas. There's some reason that I don't make it here, but I don't even I don't even give it any I don't give it any, life in a sense. You know what I'm saying?
Troy Washington:But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Right. And I'm I'm saying, like like like, you will get to a point where you won't even have a thought that you can get in a wreck because even if you did, who cares? You still gonna everything is still gonna be well. You still gonna be right. Everything gonna be right with the world.
JClay:You get to choose You get to choose the life you wanna live. You get to choose how you handle these situations. And and even a lot of times, from a more sound and logical standpoint, you can see that these situations are even brought for you to practice and see how much you've grown. Like, you might say, you know, I I wanna practice peace. I wanna practice joy where, well, you you can't just practice it when being surrounded by peace and joy.
JClay:You have to be around the the the stuff, the the icky stuff, the stuff that you don't like and see, will you still choose it? Do you want it this bad that even in the face of a fight, even in the face of danger, that you still willing to choose this? And once you do, it it's it's like the threat is immediately gone. But if you don't, it's like, hey. We're gonna keep bumping heads.
JClay:We're gonna we're gonna keep bringing this situation up. And and and the reason I I say this about, like, I I agree with you that you you should ask yourself these questions, but you can only but but only from a certain point. Like, the it's most important to get out of your way first. Like, don't ask yourself, ask a higher source or ask your higher self if you can even, see yourself as a higher self, because, you know, asking yourself in that state would just be perpetuating more and more of what got you, what you have right now.
Troy Washington:So this is a question for our audience for you to kinda help us get there.
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:If you've never if you don't know how to recognize your higher self, if you don't understand where that is, how that is, or that it's just you, how do you get to a place where you're able to say, you know what? Crisis situation? Let me talk to my higher self so that way I can see outside of myself and then put this in a proper perspective so that way I can move forward with it.
JClay:Yeah. So the the first thing I would say to ask a good great question. I would say don't even worry about seeing your higher self. Understand that one, you didn't create yourself. Right?
JClay:From your knowledge, from your standpoint, you're here. You don't know how your body works. You don't know how this so you you know on some level, there's a greater intelligence that that may govern this. You know, like, what whether you believe in the god that people talk about or not. Like, you believe in a higher intelligence that that brought this all together, that that helped facilitate who you are and where you are.
JClay:Speak to that. Like, speak to that intelligence that that brought you into being, and and ask that. Like, ask that, like, okay. So you made this all possible, which means you you you can make anything possible. You can do anything.
JClay:You could even get me out of this at the snap of your fingers. What should I do? Where should I go? And you will receive an answer from that because a a lot of times, the answers are in the questions that we ask and who we're asking the question to. Because, again, if you're if you're asking a question to someone you know can help you, what do you expect to receive from that?
JClay:You know what I mean? And and wait. Wait. Go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. No. No. No. No.
Troy Washington:This is just, further this question alone. Yeah. Because what it sounds like in my interpretation of it is stop and pray. Right? It's what we what this is what we this is what the majority of people like to do.
Troy Washington:You know what I'm saying? But this is a question for you. Right? If I stop and pray and I don't get the answer, I don't feel like I've gotten an answer. I don't feel like I have a clear vision.
Troy Washington:What would be the next step from there?
JClay:Well, see, here's the key. Because people that that would have that mindset are not prepared to get the answer. And it and it's like one of the things you hear about. Oh, go ahead.
Troy Washington:Now say say it one more time.
JClay:Yeah. Peep people who would even consider a what if like that aren't prepared to get the answer. And so they won't be able to get the answer. Like, it is like they say, faith and action work together. Like like, the the action is believing that you're gonna get what you asked for.
JClay:So, again, you're asking this infinite intelligence that that made you already. You will get an answer. But if you're looking if you're waiting, like, two seconds to say, see, I
Troy Washington:ain't getting nothing. I told you
JClay:this wasn't gonna work. You got your answer because you set forth your intention for this not to work.
Troy Washington:It's like going to McDonald's and getting in the line for some soft serve ice cream and saying to yourself, I know that ice cream machine gonna be broke already. So, you know, just to kinda reiterate the point that Jay is making, like, if you're number one, there's a sense of awareness if you're if you're even thinking about what we're talking about. Right? So you're not going into this not knowing. But if you're going to go into this not knowing, you're gonna have to trust, like I've been saying this entire time, that when I ask this question, the answer will be given to me.
Troy Washington:I will understand it. Yeah. And you have to believe that. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And and to your point so so two things, like, the soft serve example. Let's say your goal was to get some ice cream and, you know, that that first place didn't have it. You're gonna go to the next place because your goal is to get it. So you you know you're gonna get an answer. It might not come immediately, but the thing is you will know when you receive that answer because it stops you in your tracks no matter what you're doing.
JClay:Like, you might be having a conversation with somebody and they say something to you. You might be scrolling on on, social media, and you you stop and see something, and it's like, this is the answer. Thank you. I get it.
Troy Washington:Yeah. Let me tell you what's funny. And I I know this is not the, it is it is the same point. But it's funny when you talk about the download coming, sometimes when you least expect it. And, again, funny enough, I had, my twenty five year class reunion probably, in October, September last year.
Troy Washington:And, you know, all of these people that you haven't seen in twenty, twenty five years are coming up to you. And there's this one dude, and I knew that me and him were cool. Like, what's up, bro? You know? I knew we were cool, but I could not think of his name to save my life.
Troy Washington:Right? I couldn't think of it. But I his name wasn't important at that moment. Right? So I just gave him love.
Troy Washington:We talked about it all the time. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Troy Washington:Right? And then a couple of other classmates came up to me and was like, Troy, what was his name? And I was like, I don't I don't remember. And and then so everybody going around, everybody's asking me asking me what the heck they see me having this big conversation with them. And I never I never knew I I could never remember it.
Troy Washington:Now mind you, this happened September. Just and and so let me add this caveat. I said then I told one of the guys that I said, don't worry about it. It's gonna come to me. And then when I come when it comes to me, I'm a let you know.
Troy Washington:Yeah. So probably about four or five days ago, bro, I'm driving and just it his name just popped up in my head. It it just it was just it's no reason for me to think of it. It just literally it just came. And, I text my guy, and I was like, hey.
Troy Washington:You remember five months ago when you asked me about this? It was this person. His name just came to me. But it but to your point, there is a trust factor in it. I didn't have to think about it no more.
Troy Washington:Yeah. And, again, you know, you might think in that instant, I need to know the name now. But it really I didn't need to know the name now. That would that would have been crisis management trying to get something that I didn't have to have. And so, you know, I I just love the fact that you brought it up that you have to allow you have to trust and just allow for it to come, and that was an example for me.
JClay:Right. And and and oftentimes too, no immediate answer is an answer, because it is like you you might not really be able to handle that answer right now, or or you could be asking for something that's almost unanswerable. Like like, you might ask God to smite somebody else, and it's like, no. Like, it's it's
Troy Washington:Smite him down.
JClay:Like like, they they are here for a reason, but you're not prepared to see the reason. Like and, shout out to Betty. She said, don't eat McDonald's because you gave the McDonald's, self serve comment.
Troy Washington:Hi there, Betty. What up? What up? Man. Nah.
Troy Washington:Nah, bro. But, again so, again, I I love the timing conversation. Because, again, when I think about us praying or stopping, there is always some type of instantaneous reaction that we want in all things.
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And, again, using yourself as the example, are you always instantaneous for the people that are looking for you to serve them in a in a in a sense. Right? And so I I just love the fact that what's supposed to be will be there when it's supposed to be there. I had no reason to know his name at that time because I didn't need to call his name. I just I just really didn't need to.
Troy Washington:It wasn't gonna make any difference in the the communication, the the camaraderie. Everything went smooth. There was no hiccups. It it just wasn't no point point. And it it really might not have been even a point for me to get the download when I got the download.
Troy Washington:But the reality of it is I asked for it and it and it did come. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:And and some I'm I'm I'm a ask this question, but this made me think of something. So, like, have you ever resisted growth during a tough time only to later see how necessary it was? And and one of the things too is, like, when we ask for an answer, like you said, like, you you you ask this higher energy for an answer. There have been times I've gotten the answer, but it was just like, nope. I'm acting like I ain't hear it because I I I resisted growth in that moment.
JClay:And and this is a tough but this but this is one of those realizations too because once you realize this about yourself, you're like, how crazy is this? Why would I resist growth? I'm asking for this. Why why wouldn't I step into this? I got the answer I I I sought for.
JClay:I just not ready to accept it. Go ahead.
Troy Washington:The the best example of this, the the best best because I know you probably experienced it. Shout out to Betty. I know she probably experienced it. Everybody that I know experienced it. All of us that are getting more grown in age.
Troy Washington:Right? The thing that we are the most resistant to is newer technology. Things that will make our life easier based of our own assumptions. Like, you know, just as an example, I know pretext texts are good for me because I repeat the same things over and over again. But getting myself to do these things, whatever reason, would would be like pulling teeth just like most people in technology.
Troy Washington:But then, eventually, when you decide to do it, it's like, dang. What took me so long to do this? When I knew that it could serve and, again, it wasn't that I was clueless that it would serve me. I knew that it could serve me, and I just was resistant to do it because it was new. Yeah.
Troy Washington:But, you know, that's my thought process on that.
JClay:I'm I'm tell like, the the the whole meditation thing,
Troy Washington:like, I
JClay:I could be I'd be having a thought like, man, why can't I just stop this thought? And literally, thirty seconds. Thirty seconds and just, like, just in the the relaxed state. I'm good. But I I don't always go directly well, I do now, but there was a time when I wouldn't always go directly to that even because my own ego.
JClay:I'm like, man, that's not gonna help me even though I believe this help. And this Yeah. Like you said, we get in our own way, but for what? Because it's it's not we're the only ones that it affects. We're getting in our own way.
JClay:And and and, again, it's it's crazy. Yeah.
Troy Washington:Again, just the biggest question of the day is, why do we get in our own way, dawg? Like, it's just even when you said it now, in the context that we're talking about with technology, even though I know this is on a grander scale, and even though I know that I'm a person that works on this daily, like, this is a part of my life being able to be aware, to understand, to not be in crisis management mode, but yet and still, there are times when it happens. And then the question that I ask myself now, especially since you've been saying it is, why am I getting in my own way? Why is this important to me for me to do like, I'm making it important because the only stuff that I do is stuff that's important. That's it.
Troy Washington:That I that I deemed important, that I put at the top of my list. And the question that you should ask yourself for anybody is why? Like, why am I getting in my own way? But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Yeah. And and we we yeah. It it it it makes no sense. So, and then I I wanna answer this too.
JClay:How do we know you've how do you know when you truly awakened from a crisis? And like like any question, I'm sure there are many answers to this. Well, one, what to me is when you come into the same situation again and it doesn't affect you the same. Or, like, if if there's a person you hate or that you've hated for so long, and then they come back into your life or you see them somewhere and you don't have an emotional reaction, you know that you've ascended. You've awakened from that that, story that you've told yourself.
JClay:What what would you say to to this question?
Troy Washington:I would say that it's kind of, similar to what you mentioned earlier in the in the podcast when you were saying that, you know when you're you can feel it. You can actually feel that like, there's a a feeling that kinda comes over you, that is I I won't say that it's hard to explain, but it's not complete to explain from somebody. But you will know it. But I think in an awakened state, you have that feeling over and over because you're continuously awakening to things because you're now, you're, you're you're accepting the awakened state. So, like, you you get to awaken a lot of different areas, and you would just keep having that feeling over and over again, and that's what I think.
JClay:Yeah. And and and a lot of instances too, it's like a dream. Like, you know, when you when you if you've had a bad dream ever and you woke up like, I am so glad that that was a dream, and then you forget the dream. Like, after that, like, it like, this thing that that had you in its grips, you forget about it. You don't even you're like, what was I?
JClay:What did I dream the other day? Or or or in this situation, what was the crisis I was in? I I can't even remember right now. And that's how you know it's not that big of a deal because when you have to recall crisis crises
Troy Washington:is that the plural crisis? Yeah.
JClay:It it's it's tough to do. But if you if you had to recall maybe times of joy, intense joy, you could easily recall it like, oh, yeah. This brought me joy. This brought me joy. Stay in that joy state.
Troy Washington:Yeah. And and, again, I I would even challenge to say that even in those crises, the ones that you remember, if you do remember them, they because they brought you some sense of joy, some sense of, what what do you call that when you Accomplishment. Accomplishment. Yeah. It brought you so so you transferred that crisis into a sense of joy even though it's not a true sense of joy, but that's that's neither here nor that's a whole another conversation.
JClay:So we we we wind it down now. Got a few minutes left. And so one, you know, again, I appreciate everybody rocking with us. If you have any comments for the for the audience, for other people watching, any wisdom to share about this, about ways that you've overcome crises and and, step into spiritual awakening, feel free to share that. And, yeah, and just just to recap, like, you you wanna recap, Troy, like, how someone can can recognize this and move on?
JClay:Go ahead.
Troy Washington:Yeah. So so number one, in my mind, it's take a true inventory of itself. True true inventory of the circumstances. And and what I mean by that is, this is all situational. In any given situation that you feel it's a crisis, stop.
Troy Washington:You can the crisis is gonna be there, but look at yourself and see what this really how it's truly affecting you. And what you'll tend to find out in most cases, there's no true effect until you actually walk into the crisis in in in crisis mode. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and to to add to that, like, right now, you're not in crisis mode. If you're watching this, listen to this right now, you're not in crisis mode. These are the best times to practice, like, to practice that that awareness. Like, think about what you're thinking right now to what I'm saying.
JClay:Like, you might agree with it. You might you might regurgitate something real quick. Oh, that that's another way. And I I brought this up to to Troy before this, how, somebody says something to me on the basketball court, and I just kinda regurgitated something. And then somebody was like, man, is that a bible quote?
JClay:Like, what is that from? And and and what it was just, you know, it's just part of who I am. But I say that to say, like, I didn't even think about what I said. And if we can take time out to listen or to what we would just say in response to something, like it like, if somebody told you your best friend said, hey. I got a way to make a billion dollars next week.
JClay:Like, you might say, oh, that's impossible. You can't do that. Why would you say that? You know, that's your friend. They gonna they gonna bring you with them.
JClay:Why not listen first? But but that's what I mean how those instant responses can be a clue to where you are in that awakening state.
Troy Washington:And and the last piece because I know we gotta get out of here. Last piece would be and you said this. To ask your higher self, but trust your higher self. You know what I'm saying? You have to trust that the answer that you're looking for will come.
Troy Washington:But that's but and and that's that's how I can go ahead, David.
JClay:And if you're not ready to even see yourself or trust your higher self, trust the higher energy that created you. Now on on another level, you gotta re you're gonna understand it's one and the same, but right now, you might not be there yet. So it's another thing. But, but, yeah, appreciate y'all again. Hit like, comment, subscribe, share, all that good stuff if you found this helpful.
JClay:And, just remember, you're a perfect creation made by a perfect creator, so you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect mode. Yeah. If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect welcome to perfect where there are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, and spiritual teacher with my cohost Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor.
JClay:Let's be real. So let's be perfect. Let's be perfect. Perfect.
Troy Washington:Everything. Anything. Anything.
JClay:Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.
